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Brake pad info
2015 F250, CC 4X4 PSD.
Need to replace brake pads. At Rockauto and local parts store is showing OEM pad material is semi metallic. Is this true? Thought everything was ceramic on newer trucks. I was asking because thinking of trying some of the other offerings from Centric, Akebono or Reybestos. I have used Centric on other vehicles and they performed well.
I don't have a problem paying more for the Motorcraft pads if they are better, but are they? Will ceramics wear out the rotors faster??
Need to replace brake pads. At Rockauto and local parts store is showing OEM pad material is semi metallic. Is this true? Thought everything was ceramic on newer trucks. I was asking because thinking of trying some of the other offerings from Centric, Akebono or Reybestos. I have used Centric on other vehicles and they performed well.
I don't have a problem paying more for the Motorcraft pads if they are better, but are they? Will ceramics wear out the rotors faster??
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I bought the Power Stop full set of Evolution rotors and Z17 ceramic brake pads on Rock Auto. That was last June and they have about 15k miles on them now. With the ceramic pads, there's no dust at all on the front rotors. They were put on just shy of 43k miles. Front rotors started pulsing and they were corrosion pits on the front rotors and since I had the rears, my buddy replaced them as well because they had slight corrosion on the rears as well. I have hills where I'm at so if I get at least another 43k miles, I'll be happy.
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I bought the Power Stop full set of Evolution rotors and Z17 ceramic brake pads on Rock Auto. That was last June and they have about 15k miles on them now. With the ceramic pads, there's no dust at all on the front rotors. They were put on just shy of 43k miles. Front rotors started pulsing and they were corrosion pits on the front rotors and since I had the rears, my buddy replaced them as well because they had slight corrosion on the rears as well. I have hills where I'm at so if I get at least another 43k miles, I'll be happy.
https://www.rockauto.com/en/moreinfo...45244&jsn=2141
But here's just the pads:
Z17 for $33.79 front https://www.rockauto.com/en/moreinfo...45244&jsn=2211
Z36 for $36.99 front https://www.rockauto.com/en/moreinfo...45244&jsn=2233
Z23 for $53.89 front https://www.rockauto.com/en/moreinfo...45244&jsn=2240
As to if they last longer or not, I have no idea.
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Searching around the forum, i found a thread in the F150 section where it was stated that the semi metallic pads have better stopping power but the ceramics have less dust. True?
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The power stop Z36 pads will work fine with the Ford rotors, in fact I prefer the Ford rotors, but as a high friction pad rotor wear over time will be greater. Russ
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Thank you sir! I guess if semi metallic is what came on the super duty OEM, ill just stick with it.
The factory pads have 70K miles on them, any brake dust on the rims has been minimal throughout the life of the pads.
The factory pads have 70K miles on them, any brake dust on the rims has been minimal throughout the life of the pads.
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I just replaced my rotors and pads recently. I was looking at all the aftermarkets brake set and reviews. I decided that since the OEM pads and rotors worked fine and lasted 60k miles, so I bought OEM rotors and pads again. I also replaced ps and brake fluid, and put on ss brake lines from crown. Firm pedal, no brake squeal and great braking.
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Semi-metallic is what comes factory for high-temperature resistance. Ceramic is organic with 12-15% Potassium Titanate ceramic fiber in place of the steel fiber reinforcement, with higher organic content.
Rotor wear is not dependent on the friction coefficient of the pad. Cold braking is abrasive friction, but once warm, braking is cohesive friction between the pad and the transfer layer.
The terms "hard pad" and "soft pad" in terms of friction are irrelevant, you can have a friction material with good compliance but still high in friction, which is exactly what you want to avoid heat bands and hard spotting.
Rotor wear is not dependent on the friction coefficient of the pad. Cold braking is abrasive friction, but once warm, braking is cohesive friction between the pad and the transfer layer.
The terms "hard pad" and "soft pad" in terms of friction are irrelevant, you can have a friction material with good compliance but still high in friction, which is exactly what you want to avoid heat bands and hard spotting.
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