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Old Apr 2, 2020 | 05:03 PM
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Biodiesel

So my normal fuel station now shows they are selling biodiesel B20 instead of regular diesel #2. Can anyone help me with pros and cons, from a truck owners point of view not from a environmental government website standpoint. I tried to do research and every page is talking about how much better it is for clean up and the environment. Sorry, but I care about my truck more. I tried the search but that didn’t come up with anything.
 
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Old Apr 2, 2020 | 05:18 PM
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more frequent oil and filter changes.

less energy/fuel economy.

may result in more frequent regens.
 
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Old Apr 2, 2020 | 06:06 PM
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Well after posting this is shows similar threads that include bio diesel guess I could have split the word.
 
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Old Apr 2, 2020 | 06:33 PM
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From what other guys have said and what I've looked into my own fueling station and found out, most regular diesel has at least B2 to B5. That amount helps keep the fuel lubricity up for our HP common rail engines and our HPFP CP4.
 
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Old Apr 3, 2020 | 05:37 PM
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What they said ^ More lube in fuel when bio is added, so less need for PM22 or other lube additive.
 
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Old Apr 3, 2020 | 07:50 PM
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So it’s a good thing? Or try to find another diesel fill up?
 
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Old Apr 3, 2020 | 08:58 PM
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Originally Posted by senix
more frequent oil and filter changes.

less energy/fuel economy.

may result in more frequent regens.
All the things @senix said but it is better for you HPFP because is has more lubricity.
Additionally, it is a solvent so it will help to clean you fuel system which can contribute to the need to change filters more frequently until the system is clean. I like to run a tank of bio before a filter change but dont have any stations nearby that advertise the percentage of bio in their fuel.
To help with the fuel efficiency you can use a cetane boost. The problem is that bio has less BTUs/gal of fuel.
Bio also tends to contribute to fuel dilution of oil because during regen it is more likely that unburnt fuel my sneak by your cylinders and into the crankcase (lower BTUs can equal less fuel burnt that stays on cylinder walls).
Like everything it has positives and negatives. I'd rather change my oil and fuel filters more frequently than have to worry about my HPFP. With my situation, I just treat the #2 ULSD and roll on.
 
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All the things @senix said but it is better for you HPFP because is has more lubricity.
Additionally, it is a solvent so it will help to clean you fuel system which can contribute to the need to change filters more frequently until the system is clean. I like to run a tank of bio before a filter change but dont have any stations nearby that advertise the percentage of bio in their fuel.
To help with the fuel efficiency you can use a cetane boost. The problem is that bio has less BTUs/gal of fuel.
Bio also tends to contribute to fuel dilution of oil because during regen it is more likely that unburnt fuel my sneak by your cylinders and into the crankcase (lower BTUs can equal less fuel burnt that stays on cylinder walls).
Like everything it has positives and negatives. I'd rather change my oil and fuel filters more frequently than have to worry about my HPFP. With my situation, I just treat the #2 ULSD and roll on.
x2 I treat every tank fill up.
 
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It adds significant lubricity, but due to the negatives listed about it, I would be willing to run B5, but not B20.
 
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Old Apr 5, 2020 | 11:02 AM
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I use Bio quire a bit, mostly Propel Fuels Diesel HPR ; Clicky.
I have never noticed reduced power or fuel mileage even running B-20 from other sources and none of my oil analysis have shown more than 1% at 6K oil changes. I say run it.
 
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If I was running B20 I would definitely be running an additive that had an algaecide in it. PM-22 has that.
 
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If I was running B20 I would definitely be running an additive that had an algaecide in it. PM-22 has that.
So does K100.
 
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I use Schaeffer's Diesel Treat 2000
 
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Old Apr 5, 2020 | 07:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Superduty450
I use Bio quire a bit, mostly Propel Fuels Diesel HPR ; Clicky.
I have never noticed reduced power or fuel mileage even running B-20 from other sources and none of my oil analysis have shown more than 1% at 6K oil changes. I say run it.
They claim that Propel is better than biodiesel. Sounds like it's good stuff. I'd try it if I could get it.




That fuel sounds AWESOME.
 
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Old Apr 5, 2020 | 08:22 PM
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@Overkill2 you're right Propel is a different animal than B20. I wish that I could get a tank full also but it seems to be exclusive to certain areas. @Superduty450 where do you fill up with Propel?
 
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