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In the new trucks you can only use ULSD in these trucks. With how sensitive the fuel system seems to be in our trucks I will stick with regular diesel. I do have one of those stations about 20 miles from me. Not worth the round trip.
More than likely Bone, you have a slight percentage of bio-diesel in your fuel there. Like B2 to B5. Great for lubrication for the fuel system. That's why they add it.
O. K. you are probably correct. They dont say on the pump. I have used 20% bio before just because I needed fuel when towing. I didn't like my millage I got. It was cheap which should have told me something. I only use synthetic oil so i was ok to use B 20. I do get the lub part. LOL
It isn't marked here either but I remember this being brought up in other discussions. If it's under a certain amount, let's just say B20, then it doesn't have to be marked or designated as such.
I filled my truck up at quik trip in mauston Wisconsin on I 39/90/94 .. 187 miles later my truck broke down .
fuel company says no bad fuel after they got back with me 2 and a half weeks later 🤦♂️
I have a 2011 F350 6.7litre diesel Ford . HPFP is junk along with my injectors 🤬
BIODIESEL is cheaper to make yet it's almost a buck more than gasoline a gallon 🤦♂️
it's junk fuel
I filled my truck up at quik trip in mauston Wisconsin on I 39/90/94 .. 187 miles later my truck broke down .
fuel company says no bad fuel after they got back with me 2 and a half weeks later 🤦♂️
I have a 2011 F350 6.7litre diesel Ford . HPFP is junk along with my injectors 🤬
BIODIESEL is cheaper to make yet it's almost a buck more than gasoline a gallon 🤦♂️
it's junk fuel
So you're saying you filled up with biodiesel and that's what caused your HPFP to fail? Did you have the fuel tested yourself to confirm what the fuel company's test showed?
I filled my truck up at quik trip in mauston Wisconsin on I 39/90/94 .. 187 miles later my truck broke down .
fuel company says no bad fuel after they got back with me 2 and a half weeks later 🤦♂️
I have a 2011 F350 6.7litre diesel Ford . HPFP is junk along with my injectors 🤬
BIODIESEL is cheaper to make yet it's almost a buck more than gasoline a gallon 🤦♂️
it's junk fuel
Sorry to hear about your ride bro. That really sucks.
I'm no expert in biodiesel and I know I said I would try Propel but looking into this now it appears it is just plain old biodiesel. Maybe they just add more additives to it for better cold weather use but it's still biodiesel when you look at it.
These can be the issues apparently.
It looks potentially like your biodiesel had some excess moisture in it that took out the HPFP and injectors.
I consider myself to be corrected as I considered that Propel fuel to be different but it's not. It may just have more additives to increase cold weather use. It's lubricity performance, while better, is not much better than traditional petroleum diesel fuel. The main advantage, IMHO, to try it once would be to see how engine performs with the higher cetane. But use could possibly affect
Your warranty so I would make sure it doesn't before using it. Maybe someone could start a Propel fuel thread and see how many use it.
So it looks like there have been issues with biodiesel being consistent in its quality and specs. There also seems to be a lot of discrepancies in the approval for its use in diesel engines and the warranty coverage when something happens. Reading all these articles and learning what can go wrong, I'm glad I use K100 every tank to counteract any moisture issue and the subsequent issue of lack of lubrication.
I now also stand corrected about why biodiesel is blended into diesel fuel. Even though it does add some lube value to the fuel, it's added because states are now mandated it because of environmental concerns. But from the oil price.com link:
While I realize this comes from an petroleum based website, he hits the nail on the head with the problems of modern day biodiesel fuels. There still are problems with modern ULSD fuel to deal with. I believe that these bio based fuels will have to advance and become more acceptable to the modern day high pressure common rail diesel engines that power our trucks.
More than likely Bone, you have a slight percentage of bio-diesel in your fuel there. Like B2 to B5. Great for lubrication for the fuel system. That's why they add it.
No, adding bio-diesel is mandated by various governments. It is there to compel the purchase of product that you may or may not want for the benefit of a favored sector.
I now also stand corrected about why biodiesel is blended into diesel fuel. Even though it does add some lube value to the fuel, it's added because states are now mandated it because of environmental concerns.
Originally Posted by lynnmor
No, adding bio-diesel is mandated by various governments. It is there to compel the purchase of product that you may or may not want for the benefit of a favored sector.
Thanks. I admitted such at the beginning of the post before yours.
It's easy for the greenies to push for all this crap because it never effects them. If they had to pay for a new fuel system because of biodiesel they would hit the roof. Most of this stuff people believe in as long as it doesn't effect them it's ok. As soon as it hits there own door they are the first to bitch. It's amazes how few people can make our lives so complicated. (Miserable)
Thanks. I admitted such at the beginning of the post before yours.
The bio-diesel mandate took place about 12 years ago, not for environmental purposes, but instead it was done to buy the votes in all those square states. We need to always follow the money.
The bio-diesel mandate took place about 12 years ago, not for environmental purposes, but instead it was done to buy the votes in all those square states. We need to always follow the money.
So you're saying you filled up with biodiesel and that's what caused your HPFP to fail? Did you have the fuel tested yourself to confirm what the fuel company's test showed?
yes.. no I haven't tested fuel in my tank yet but it is contamination because the HPFP is shredded .
fuel company says they can't go by what's in my tank because they don't know what was in my tank prior to filling it... (27.67 gallons) .
I said , but here's the problem I have with not relying on a test of the fuel in my tank .
my truck ran fine BEFORE I put your fuel in my tank. So apparently nothing in the tank prior to fueling was a problem 😁 BOOM
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