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2020 Explorer?
We are going to trade my wife's 2017 escape for a 2020 Explorer, and was wondering if the larger engine is worth it?
What other features do you like? The 300 A group offers more features than we might need. Thank you, Curt
What other features do you like? The 300 A group offers more features than we might need. Thank you, Curt
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Car & Driver clocked the 2020 Explorer 2.3 EB at 6.2 seconds to 60 mph.
Your wife will probably find either engine in the Explorer quick enough.
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The ZF 8-speed in my Charger (and was in my 2014 Grand Cherokee EcoDiesel) shift just fine. Not really noticeable.
But the 6 speed in my Grand Caravan, Expy and Escape suit me just fine too.
I see the need for a 10 speed in a heavy truck, but in a light car, really does not add much. Most reviewers (of any brand) report the tranny going into 10th gear only when coasting or very, very light on the throttle on flat land. Some report only when coasting downhill. Many report a lot of hunting.
At 70 MPH, fuel economy is more dependent on drag rather than engine RPMs.
Of course, EPA fuel economy tests are conducted in a laboratory and "adjusted" mathematically for drag.
But the 6 speed in my Grand Caravan, Expy and Escape suit me just fine too.
I see the need for a 10 speed in a heavy truck, but in a light car, really does not add much. Most reviewers (of any brand) report the tranny going into 10th gear only when coasting or very, very light on the throttle on flat land. Some report only when coasting downhill. Many report a lot of hunting.
At 70 MPH, fuel economy is more dependent on drag rather than engine RPMs.
Of course, EPA fuel economy tests are conducted in a laboratory and "adjusted" mathematically for drag.
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The ZF 8-speed in my Charger (and was in my 2014 Grand Cherokee EcoDiesel) shift just fine. Not really noticeable.
But the 6 speed in my Grand Caravan, Expy and Escape suit me just fine too.
I see the need for a 10 speed in a heavy truck, but in a light car, really does not add much. Most reviewers (of any brand) report the tranny going into 10th gear only when coasting or very, very light on the throttle on flat land. Some report only when coasting downhill. Many report a lot of hunting.
But the 6 speed in my Grand Caravan, Expy and Escape suit me just fine too.
I see the need for a 10 speed in a heavy truck, but in a light car, really does not add much. Most reviewers (of any brand) report the tranny going into 10th gear only when coasting or very, very light on the throttle on flat land. Some report only when coasting downhill. Many report a lot of hunting.
As for the Palisade, that's in house designed unit for Hyundai. I saw a few people complain about the same thing I felt about the test drive. Some claim it's due to adaptive learning. Tester is going to be hammered on more and the like. So it might not have the best programming in the TCU. I don't know.
Oh as for hunting. My truck knows really 3 gears. 2, 4, and 6. 1,3, 5 just get in the way LoL
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About 60% of my driving is done on suburban streets at 35 MPH - 45 MPH.
In my Expy with the 6 speed, at 45 MPH, the tranny is in 5th gear. Does not even shift up to 6th. 5th is already an overdrive at 0.87. Engine is running at about 1200 RPM, or just a fast idle.
In this situation, I am not really sure what 4 more speeds does for me.
My 6th gear has a 0.69 ratio.
In the Expy 10 speed, 9th gear has a ratio of 0.69 and 10th gear has a ratio of 0.64.
Really splitting hairs here.
Every truck/car that I can remember was geared to run 1600 RPM-2000 RPM at 70 MPH, except for the old 7.3 diesels with the 4 speed 4R100 tranny, which only ran around 66 MPH-67 MPH at 2000 RPM.
Much below 1500 RPM, few of these (gasser) engines have enough torque to overcome the wind resistance and run 70 MPH.
In my Expy with the 6 speed, at 45 MPH, the tranny is in 5th gear. Does not even shift up to 6th. 5th is already an overdrive at 0.87. Engine is running at about 1200 RPM, or just a fast idle.
In this situation, I am not really sure what 4 more speeds does for me.
My 6th gear has a 0.69 ratio.
In the Expy 10 speed, 9th gear has a ratio of 0.69 and 10th gear has a ratio of 0.64.
Really splitting hairs here.
Every truck/car that I can remember was geared to run 1600 RPM-2000 RPM at 70 MPH, except for the old 7.3 diesels with the 4 speed 4R100 tranny, which only ran around 66 MPH-67 MPH at 2000 RPM.
Much below 1500 RPM, few of these (gasser) engines have enough torque to overcome the wind resistance and run 70 MPH.
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