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Old Feb 22, 2020 | 01:25 PM
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Downsides to manual windows?

Besides convenience and resale, and issues with going with manual crank windows in '20 Crew Cab 350?

Specing out a work truck and really don't need or want the power equipment group.

But if there are known issues with the manual cranks (won't stay up, cranks break, track issues) I would go power.
 
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Old Feb 22, 2020 | 01:39 PM
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The only downside I have is the handle is in a terrible spot. You really have to work at it, the handle is below the door pull and even with the front seat. Have you sat in a manual equipped truck?
 
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Old Feb 22, 2020 | 02:01 PM
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I dont think you can get cruise control or hands free phone with manual windows.

My 2011 had cruise control and Elocker as the only options. The hands free phone is a safety issue in my opinion, always on the phone.
 
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Old Feb 22, 2020 | 03:01 PM
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Our 1986 Suburban had manual crank door windows. Cranking the driver door window was bad enough, but getting to the other three window cranks was difficult, painful, and/or virtually impossible.

We gave the Suburban away in late 1996. It was the last truck without power windows.

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Old Feb 22, 2020 | 03:30 PM
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Young people will not know how to roll down windows. Seriously.

But in the unlikely event you end up upside down in a creek bed, I guess I'd rather have rollups.

And another thing I just thought of. Again unlikely, but you know how cops walk up to the passenger window nowadays if you're ever pulled over? Might **** him off if he's screaming "roll your *$/)&!*} window down!" and you can't reach it. Or, if you do reach over, he might think you're doing something else. You never know.
 
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Old Feb 22, 2020 | 03:34 PM
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I just looked it up and you get Sync standard and Cruise Control comes with the $395 Value Package or whatever with chrome bumpers.

So I really don’t see a downside to the handcranks unless you live in an area with perfect weather.
 
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Old Feb 22, 2020 | 03:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Joe T
I dont think you can get cruise control or hands free phone with manual windows.

My 2011 had cruise control and Elocker as the only options. The hands free phone is a safety issue in my opinion, always on the phone.

cruise control comes with the XL chrome bumpers package.
 
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Old Feb 22, 2020 | 03:52 PM
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my arms aren't long enough to roll the passenger window side up or down from the drivers seat.......
 
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Originally Posted by Joe T
I dont think you can get cruise control or hands free phone with manual windows.

My 2011 had cruise control and Elocker as the only options. The hands free phone is a safety issue in my opinion, always on the phone.

You can get both of those without power equipment group.
 
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Originally Posted by Joe T
I dont think you can get cruise control or hands free phone with manual windows.

My 2011 had cruise control and Elocker as the only options. The hands free phone is a safety issue in my opinion, always on the phone.

You can get both of those without power equipment group.
 
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Old Feb 22, 2020 | 04:03 PM
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And another thing I just thought of. Again unlikely, but you know how cops walk up to the passenger window nowadays if you're ever pulled over? Might **** him off if he's screaming "roll your *$/)&!*} window down!" and you can't reach it. Or, if you do reach over, he might think you're doing something else. You never know.
That was my immediate thought. Police predominantly walk to the passenger window so they're at less risk for being hit by traffic. That's also why they will angle their vehicle behind you, so that their driver's door doesn't open beyond the front fender into a traffic lane.
 
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Old Feb 22, 2020 | 04:04 PM
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Just to be able to get cross ventilation through the cab, and to be able to relieve the buffeting noise from having only the driver window down without a matching air escape on the other side of the cab, is worth having power windows to me.

I could live with a hand crank window on the driver's door, as long as the other unreachable 3 doors (or single passenger door for regular cab) had power windows.

Just think, Ford could save 50% of power windows parts costs by offering a manual driver's window with a power passenger window.

Just kidding... the production inefficiency to accommodate the few buyers who are that thrift minded would easily cost more to produce a partial power window option.

Here's a situation with a crew truck: The driver is typically the foreman, and the most responsible minded of the bunch. The guys in the back roll the windows down, as the cabs get a little stuffy when full of men coated in a frosting of dirt and sweat. They arrive at the next job, the lunch spot, or some public place where the inside of the truck needs to be locked, and the guys tumble out of the truck leaving their windows rolled down 'cause they feel they don't get paid enough to give a flying duck.

So now the foreman is stuck with a dilemma... call the guys back to make them roll up their windows, treating them like 10 year olds and thus tarnishing their attitudes that day, or let 'em go do their work, since by this time they are already busy unloading tools, jumping on the skid steer, or whatever. The foreman is smart enough to leave the guys alone on the petty stuff and let them get their work done. But now he has to go around to each individual window to lock up the cab, so the wind doesn't scatter the paperwork inside, and so the expensive laser levels hidden behind the rear seat are less accessible.

Long story short: The new XL crew truck now has power windows.
 
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Old Feb 22, 2020 | 04:17 PM
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When I had my regular cab truck I didn't have any issues with manual windows since there was only two and I could lean over the seat to roll the passenger side down. When I ordered this CC I went back to power windows for ease of use. Funny thing is I don't think I've even rolled the back windows down in the six months I've had it.

ETA. The main reason I went with power windows is because I wanted power locks again(I did miss those on the last truck)and the windows came with the locks. I wish it was like it was in the old days where you could mix and match options. Our 2003 F250 at work has power windows but manual locks and mirrors.
 
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Old Feb 22, 2020 | 04:37 PM
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On my '11 xl the hand cranks were fine. On my '17 xl the cranks felt clumsy for the first few days.

Crank windows require a crank driver.
 
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Old Feb 22, 2020 | 05:27 PM
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I almost never roll the window down, when I do it's the driver side to get mail.

I like the idea of a lot less wiring with no power windows, locks, mirrors.

 
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