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Or you could build a stroked 460 with CJ heads for a 1/3rd of the price and fabrication hassle, and stomp late model trash all day long just for fun. 600 horse is entry level horsepower for a mildly built big block.
Or you could build a stroked 460 with CJ heads for a 1/3rd of the price and fabrication hassle, and stomp late model trash all day long just for fun. 600 horse is entry level horsepower for a mildly built big block.
Someone always has to make this point, it's like they can't help themselves. The point isn't to get 600 hp, it's to install a new motor/trans that nobody else has. Why crap on every idea that isn't your first choice?
Or you could build a stroked 460 with CJ heads for a 1/3rd of the price and fabrication hassle, and stomp late model trash all day long just for fun. 600 horse is entry level horsepower for a mildly built big block.
I can’t remember ever seeing a 600 hp big block Ford or Chevy in anything growing up that was driven on the street. I am not sure that 600hp classifies as entry level in any engine build. It takes a special build to keep that hp moving in a race car let alone in a daily driver. Now change that hp number to 400 and yea, I would agree on entry level hp. Just my $.02.
Or you could build a stroked 460 with CJ heads for a 1/3rd of the price and fabrication hassle, and stomp late model trash all day long just for fun. 600 horse is entry level horsepower for a mildly built big block.
Don’t know the cost of the new Godzilla engine. Do know my 650 hp stroked 460 cost me about 8k to put together with me pulling and installing it. Pretty grumpy cam and gets about 7 mpg. Not knocking it. Love it. More streetable would not be a bad thing.
Well if anyone is following used parts the first couple 7.3 used engines were posted for sale. One had 5300 miles and was offered for 7k the other was a engine trans drop out for 9k. There is already about 30 2020 Superduty trucks listed at insurance auctions. I found the parts through LKQ and Car-part.com.
Either way I think it'll be cool to see one in a dentside. Just another option for us to have, which I always consider a good thing. And, for those who bleed blue, it's another Ford in a Ford option.
FOR THE HATERS, I'll bite. For starters, a 600 horsepower 460 is not entry level for any street driven truck/car, more like off the charts. Is the 460 capable of big numbers? of course, in an all out race application and with very deep pockets. Regardless, using the 460 for engine swaps has ran it's course. If it's to make your already choked dent run a lil better then yes, a mildly built 460 would surely exceed the 1973-1979's HP rating of 212 in these trucks and would be cheaper than anything else ford has made to include the 351W. If you think on any level it compares to present day that would be a mistake. I have a .040 over 460 from Ford Racing that I purchased new in 2005 for $5887 from Summit when Ford still offered them. As you can see, It's advertised as 560 HP at 6000. This would definitely qualify at "seriously built" not mildly built" You'll note in the spec sheet that it has .588 intake and .614 exhaust so a big ol' bump stick, Cobra Jet heads and a Victor JR high rise with an 850 Holley Brawler DP. I have changed the camshaft which is now .611 and .611. Also at 10.5:1 compression it's on the edge of running pump gas. The engine dyno'd at 520HP before going into the car so that 560 was a lil stretch. This engine is in my Cobra replica and I can say it is not a street friendly engine at any level. Fun? Hell yes but one could never use this for anything other than tearing your hair off between stop lights and parking at a car show or out on the open road where you can leave it at 70-80MPH and get it off of the carburetor idle circuit. It literally drinks gas and idles like it's gonna punch you in the face. I absolutely love the engine or I wouldn't have put it in my car. Godzilla, at least from the spec sheet can't be compared with the 460. The price point and drive ability is the killer for the 460. Easily $8500-$10000 for 600HP and you can't build a carbureted (as you frown on EFI) 460 with 600 civil crank horsepower. Compression on a 460 required to hit 600 at the crank would most likely require race gas. Could you drive it on the street? Not far. Would you tow with it? Not far. Would you drive it to work for the week? You'd be broke. On the front sheet of the spec sheet, Ford themselves say it's an excellent engine for bracket racing!
Ford has given those of us another option to keep a Ford in a Ford. Like Chevy has done with the LS platform. Don't be hatin'
Just think Hellcat, Viper, Mustang and even the Camaro. All modern day rockets that run all day with the cruise set and the A/C on! These new engines and transmission as far as that goes are simply amazing! Could not have said it better brother!
Or you could build a stroked 460 with CJ heads for a 1/3rd of the price and fabrication hassle, and stomp late model trash all day long just for fun. 600 horse is entry level horsepower for a mildly built big block.
I've swapped a few classic vehicles with modern computer controlled engines, and I've heard these statements a lot. I've also built and daily driven a few big blocks too so I have experience on both sides of this argument. Let me tell ya, the modern horsepower is leaps and bounds above an equivalent amount of cast iron big block V8 horsepower. Don't knock it till youve tried it! The extra money is worth it- if it does actually cost extra, you can spend big bucks on going forged and new heads after all.
The throttle response of the new engines with EFI is hard to beat. I went from a 460 to the Coyote set up and I must say not a cheap swap but to me it was worth the effort. One of the most satisfying things happened at a cruise night was when some Chevy clown looking at my truck wanted to know why engine was not wrapped in Chevy sheet metal. The new Godzilla package will probably be cheaper in the long run and easier to swap into just about anything. Hopefully Ford will start selling them like the Coyote. The biggest problem I can see is the rear sump oil pan for the rear steer cars.
The 32 valve 4.6 in my 67 XL gets 17-19 MPG and moves the car with no problem and with the 25 gallon tank has you looking for a rest room long before it needs gas. Now even my 68 Ranger with the 18 gallon tank causes the same problem. Of course being over 70 might have something to do with that.
I have no problem with someone who wants to keep the “old school “ look and power source as long as it has a Ford engine in it.
