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Old Jan 23, 2020 | 07:49 PM
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$500 water pump???

Picked up a 429 to put in my '76 highboy. Was looking at changing the water pump, and when i looked it up online, one was $ 500+, and the other was $900+ .....am i missing something.

 
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Old Jan 23, 2020 | 07:56 PM
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Do you want an original water pump? Rockauto has pumps for $20-50. I just looked up a 73 galaxie.
https://www.rockauto.com/en/catalog/...ater+pump,2208
 
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Old Jan 23, 2020 | 07:59 PM
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A quick ebay search shows that a restored numbers matching 1969 Mustang Boss 429 is going for $260,000 or more (at least that's what they're asking). With that sort of car, numbers matching parts are critical. these are the parts to make one of those cars numbers matching.
 
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Old Jan 23, 2020 | 08:01 PM
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C8SE has shorter snout for certain applications.

mine came off a 68 460 from a Lincoln and fit well in my 69 mustang.

if you dont have a c8SE pump now, then don’t buy one.

standard snout pumps are under $100.
 
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Old Jan 23, 2020 | 10:28 PM
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Back before cars were made of plastic and aluminium and needed turbos and computers to be sort of almost fast, there were actually truly fast cars during what is called the "muscle car era"

Unlike now, where you only get one version of an engine as an option in your car, in 1969-70, you could order any of 5 different levels of performance 429, with the BOSS 429 being the top dog, which was little more than a full-race hemi detuned for the street. The boss 429 had extremely limited production numbers, and many of them were wrecked or blown up making them more rare today.

What you were looking at was original, date coded water pumps that originally came on these cars, which is why they were so expensive.

I am positive you don't have an original boss 429 or 429SCJ. You most likely have a basic 429, which takes a standard 429 or 460 water pump.

That should explain a 900 dollar water pump for you. Here's a few pics of original boss 429 cars for you.





 
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Old Jan 23, 2020 | 10:41 PM
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Show a picture of your engine there Boss. While we have no way of knowing your financial capabilities, and it would be super cool to see a Boss 429 F series, you likely bought a 429 which you can get a water pump from over the counter.

If you have a B-9, you will indeed have the baddest streetable truck in the county.
 
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Old Jan 23, 2020 | 11:12 PM
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Does your 429 look like this? Do the heads look like these? If so, then it's actually a boat anchor 351M and you should save yourself the trouble and sell it to me immediately. Go buy yourself a ( cough cough lol) much more efficient, modern coyote Cummins hemi and I'll take that horrible old tech off your hands. I'm doing you a favor buddy.


 
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Old Jan 24, 2020 | 12:11 AM
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I see , thanks for the info...i need a different style for my pulley set up ...but i probably shouldn't turn this one back in as a core then ? I really don't have room to store one more " might use someday " part. :-)
 
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Old Jan 24, 2020 | 01:02 AM
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I'll snap a few pictures tomorrow.,mine looks nothing like your 351 :-) love the history though!
 
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Old Jan 24, 2020 | 07:52 AM
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number dummy could confirm, but I would assume that short snout water pumps were used on all applications until the early 70’s. 1968-71?

they are not boss specific
 
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Old Jan 24, 2020 | 08:30 AM
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Short snout used on 68/69 429, including Boss.
 
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Old Jan 24, 2020 | 10:15 AM
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number dummy could confirm, but I would assume that short snout water pumps were used on all applications until the early 70’s. 1968-71?

they are not boss specific The 90 degree by pass hose fitting is Boss only I believe.
 
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Old Jan 24, 2020 | 10:34 AM
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Your existing pump can be easily rebuilt with new bearings and seals and be good to go for another 150,000 miles, cost should be very competitive, a fraction of the cost for a new one. Yeah - ask those $560 guys how much for a core, and see what they say.
 
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Old Jan 25, 2020 | 03:11 AM
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A few years ago I saw a very cool set of Weber carburetors on the work bench of a local shop that were obviously for a 12-cylinder engine. As it turns out, I was looking at $220,000 worth of used carburetors! And they were going to be worth a lot more after they were "restored" (as opposed to the typical "rebuilt" condition.
They were one of the few remaining correct sets of carbs for an early sixties factory race Ferrari that was valued (at the time) at about $14million bucks. So yeah, prices go with the territory.
Luckily we exist in a slightly different territory with regard to most of our stuff.

Paul
 
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Originally Posted by hail destroyer
Back before cars were made of plastic and aluminium and needed turbos and computers to be sort of almost fast, there were actually truly fast cars during what is called the "muscle car era"

Unlike now, where you only get one version of an engine as an option in your car, in 1969-70, you could order any of 5 different levels of performance 429, with the BOSS 429 being the top dog, which was little more than a full-race hemi detuned for the street. The boss 429 had extremely limited production numbers, and many of them were wrecked or blown up making them more rare today.
Cars are still fast.

​​​​​​Car and driver mustang 0-60 times

Some 68-70 muscle car's 0-60 times

I love the classic muscle cars but if I want to go as fast as possible I can buy a new mustang that will beat the classics in a straight line and on the autocross with a warranty.

If I really want to go TRULY fast I can choose the 2020 GT500 (one of the many different performance packages) that has a different motor than the GT and can go from 0-60 in 3.5 seconds.

Fast cars are far from dead. Hell, the electric Teslas are strait line rockets. Classics are cool but innovation and new technology is cool as well.
 
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