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Old Jan 12, 2020 | 05:26 PM
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351m won't start

I just finished rebuilding my 351m and dropped it in last week and have been trying to start it up since any help would be very appreciated

The engines got plenty of air, I've tried gasoline and starting fluid, engine timing is correct, compression on all cylinders is good, timing chain was correct when installed.

I get plenty of backfires through the headers but it just doesn't want to light at all. I am lost so if anyone has an idea of what to do I'm all ears
 
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Old Jan 12, 2020 | 05:37 PM
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Verify distributor is installed in phase - when #1 piston is at TDC on the compression stroke observe that the distributor rotor is aligned with the #1 distributor cap terminal position.
 
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Old Jan 12, 2020 | 05:38 PM
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Backfires through exhaust or intake would make me question timing.
 
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Old Jan 12, 2020 | 05:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Tedster9
Verify distributor is installed in phase - when #1 piston is at TDC on the compression stroke observe that the distributor rotor is aligned with the #1 distributor cap terminal position.
Yessir I did that too and it was still the same result somehow
 
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Old Jan 12, 2020 | 05:47 PM
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Backfires through exhaust or intake would make me question timing.
That's what I thought too but I went over the engine timing multiple times now and nothing's changed. Maybe my timing chain skipped a link or something
 
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Old Jan 12, 2020 | 06:01 PM
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That's what I thought too but I went over the engine timing multiple times now and nothing's changed.
Hm... is the crankshaft balancer new or rebuilt? Verify TDC "0" mark with a piston stop tool?

Imagine that was done already ... when replacing timing set, but something is wacky ... Wonder what it is
 
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Old Jan 12, 2020 | 06:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Tedster9
Hm... is the crankshaft balancer new or rebuilt? Verify TDC "0" mark with a piston stop tool?

Imagine that was done already ... when replacing timing set, but something is wacky ... Wonder what it is
Brand new balancer and I did make sure TDC on the balancer was lined up with the piston TDC. And it still lines up with TDC on the compression stroke so i can't think of a reason why it shouldn't be right

Yeah something is super wacky. Thanks for the replies
 
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Old Jan 12, 2020 | 06:14 PM
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Is it possible its a 180% out of time,,are you sure it was on compression stroke ? I know I have done this a couple times on older engines,this will try to start an back fire if 180% out
 
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Old Jan 12, 2020 | 06:24 PM
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Originally Posted by 72rtchallenger
Is it possible its a 180% out of time,,are you sure it was on compression stroke ? I know I have done this a couple times on older engines,this will try to start an back fire if 180% out
I'm almost 99% positive that it was. I held my thumb over the spark plug hole and felt pressure and put a screwdriver down the hole and made sure it was at the top
 
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Old Jan 12, 2020 | 06:30 PM
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I'm almost 99% positive that it was. I held my thumb over the spark plug hole and felt pressure and put a screwdriver down the hole and made sure it was at the top
Wont hurt to try and flip it around at this point as its an easy way to try
 
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Originally Posted by 72rtchallenger
Wont hurt to try and flip it around at this point as its an easy way to try
Yeah I'm down to try anything I'll definitely do that once the battery charges
 
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Old Jan 12, 2020 | 06:46 PM
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Wont hurt to try and flip it around at this point as its an easy way to try
Just for anyone following along, moving the plug wires around on the cap is easier than restabbing distributor. #1 goes to #6 and continue in normal firing order.
 
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Old Jan 12, 2020 | 06:51 PM
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Just for anyone following along, moving the plug wires around on the cap is easier than restabbing distributor. #1 goes to #6 and continue in normal firing order.
Very true your absolutely right ,as long as wires work out and ones not to short doing it that way
 
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Old Jan 12, 2020 | 07:55 PM
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Double check firing order ;Ford 351C, 351M, 400M Firing Order | GTSparkplugs
 
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I wondered about that. It is important to get a rebuilt engine started right away without extended cranking, and immediately bring to a high RPM for the 20-30 minute camshaft break-in.
 
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