Dual Steering Stabilizer question
Cargo Master
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From: Southeast MO
Since no one else has chimed in, I’ll give you my $.02 which is worth exactly that...the stock mounting location is flawed to an extent. Despite it’s similar angle to the drag link it’s not the same. This is noticeable with a stiffer stabilizer mounted in the factory location. As the suspension cycles it tends to want to push on the drag link giving you feedback in the steering wheel. Ram moved their stabilizer down to the axle some years back to eliminate this. In theory, having the duals plus the stock could lead to excessive wear on the steering box and drag link tie rod end. I’ve heard of this happening but don’t know how true it is or if having all three was the cause. If it were mine (and I’ve been from stock, to the Fox IFP, to the Fox ATS, and currently the PMF dual setup with Bilsteins) I would remove the stocker to eliminate any chance it is giving you bumpsteer and to simplify your setup and help with any troubleshooting down the line should you have shimmy/shake issues. Hope something I said helps you out.
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Cargo Master
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From: Southeast MO
I will remove mine when I add duals, I see no reason to keep it.
Tuned
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I left the stocker in place. Try it both ways and see what you like better.
Mountain Pass
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Ok, I am coming from the opposite side of the equation. I have a 97 F250 2wd automatic CC with a 7.3 and the steering is stiff. Stiffer than my 77 F250 2wd regular cab CS. What I would like to know is, can I "loosen" the steering to feel more like a true power steering feel or am I stuck with the stiffer feeling? I had an 04 F250 6.0 4wd with the off road package and it was stiff. Thanks for any suggestions.
Mountain Pass
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From: Texas
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Mountain Pass
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As far as I know. I have had it about 2 weeks and have been getting it cleaned up. Assuming I do have the stock one in then is the answer to get an aftermarket one or to leave it off? I dont off road it as I bought it to to run the interstates and do some light pulling. If it is an aftermarket I need suggestions are welcome. Thanks for replying. Jack
Tuned
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I installed the PMF Dual SS W/Bilsteins on my "Stock" 2019 F250 and removed the stock SS, (not easy) because I wanted to know how well the PMF worked on its own.....found no need for the stock SS to go back on. My thought is, the stock unit operation and location is not enough for these big front ends. I will also say, this is the first Superduty I have had this issue with. My 1999 did fine, but it had leaf springs then. My 2016 F350 does fine, but has the smaller "standard" size tires, 245/75/17, which I think makes a difference, IMO.
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From: DFW
Any DW prior to install? Fixed After install I would guess?
Cargo Master
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I just installed my PMF with Bilsteins. Wow what a difference! It drives like it should now. I left the stock SS on for the time being. This is definitely the way to go compared to an ATS. I know because I had one and sold it. Truck tracks straight again, bump steer has been reduced by 90% and overall just feels better.
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I just installed my PMF with Bilsteins. Wow what a difference! It drives like it should now. I left the stock SS on for the time being. This is definitely the way to go compared to an ATS. I know because I had one and sold it. Truck tracks straight again, bump steer has been reduced by 90% and overall just feels better.
Mine feels more “planted”