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Old Dec 26, 2019 | 04:05 PM
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Originally Posted by ForCal
It doesn't matter how high the rate is, you just take the rebate and refinance. It can sometimes be done before the first payment is due. Many, but not all lenders consider the vehicle "New" if its 2 model years or newer. So you still get the best rates when refinancing.
There's always the possibility of another lender telling you that you don't have a good enough "loan to value" ratio if there wasn't enough money "down" applied to knock down the price of the new truck enough, such as when the trade value barely pays off the old truck.
I've been in both positions in the past. Either got just a little more than I owed on the trade or walked in and only traded for a few thousand. The point being that everyone isn't in the same financial boat to get loans approved basically back to back when the first loan doesn't have a payoff amount favorable enough for the second lender. But as you say, different lenders have different standards. Those who roll debt from the current truck into the new would be a good example not being able to take advantage of using FC and then refinancing, but as most of us know that's never a good financial move anyway just to have something new. But we all probably know someone who always has a new vehicle but it probably still paying for one from several years back.
 
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Old Dec 26, 2019 | 04:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Poncho450
There's always the possibility of another lender telling you that you don't have a good enough "loan to value" ratio if there wasn't enough money "down" applied to knock down the price of the new truck enough, such as when the trade value barely pays off the old truck.
I've been in both positions in the past. Either got just a little more than I owed on the trade or walked in and only traded for a few thousand. The point being that everyone isn't in the same financial boat to get loans approved basically back to back when the first loan doesn't have a payoff amount favorable enough for the second lender. But as you say, different lenders have different standards. Those who roll debt from the current truck into the new would be a good example not being able to take advantage of using FC and then refinancing, but as most of us know that's never a good financial move anyway just to have something new. But we all probably know someone who always has a new vehicle but it probably still paying for one from several years back.
True, hopefully enough do diligence is done prior to making financial decisions. I dont have a ton of brand new vehicle buying experience, and have never done a trade in, but I haven't found auto loans to be terribly difficult for people to qualify for, as long as there is some sort of established credit. My first new vehicle purchase I drove away with 0 down, just agreed to bring $2k(amount of tax) back within 2 weeks. I took the dealer financing, actually Bank of America, at a fairly high rate. Before even making the first payment went and refinanced. No issue with loan to value, the only negative at that time was that they wouldn't give me the "new" rate. Still saved a bunch. My current truck I put around 50% down, when I went to refi they didn't even verify income, just the standard credit check, and the rates were the same for any vehicle 2 model years or newer.
 
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Old Dec 26, 2019 | 05:31 PM
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Looks like it costs you $20 per month per 10K in loan amount to keep that 7.8 loan vs 3.4 which is what my CU is offering. How long you keep that loan is up to you. Seems like there are some pretty good deals on 19's, good for you.

 
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Old Dec 26, 2019 | 07:38 PM
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I was in the same situation on my two Super Duty trucks. I never made a single payment to FMC. I waited two weeks for FMS to process the paperwork, called and got a payoff, and refi’d with my credit union at less than 3%, and they considered it a new purchase. Even with credit scores well over 800, FMC’s “great rate” was 5.95%. I dropped my payment significantly, and cut the total interest in half. The dealer looks out for their bottom line, I look out for mine.
 
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Old Dec 26, 2019 | 07:53 PM
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I was in the same situation on my two Super Duty trucks. I never made a single payment to FMC. I waited two weeks for FMS to process the paperwork, called and got a payoff, and refi’d with my credit union at less than 3%, and they considered it a new purchase. Even with credit scores well over 800, FMC’s “great rate” was 5.95%. I dropped my payment significantly, and cut the total interest in half. The dealer looks out for their bottom line, I look out for mine.
Exact same story here.
 
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