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Old Dec 14, 2019 | 01:47 PM
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I replaced the exhaust back pressure sensor and tube today. I was not expecting much of anything from doing it even though the tube, sensor and the part it screws into was totally plugged. I had kind of a deadish first inch or so of go pedal since I bought the truck, after replacing the sensor I noticed that was greatly reduced. There was no feathering I could do which made 1st and reverse kind of bouncy. After all the reading I have done 1/2 says the EBPS only controls the EBPV and the other half say it works with the EBPV and fuel maps. I'm in the 1/2 that thinks the EBPS definitely has something to do with the fueling. So even if you have the deleted ped clean your EBPS.
 
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Old Dec 14, 2019 | 02:05 PM
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Did you unplug the batterys?
 
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Old Dec 14, 2019 | 02:09 PM
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Did you unplug the batterys?
No. Should I have?
 
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Old Dec 14, 2019 | 02:31 PM
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Nah, sometimes when you unplug the batterys the TPS resets to re learn mode in most gas fuel injected vehicles, which makes them have a touchy pedal until it re learns your driving habits. Not sure this is the case in our trucks.
 
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Old Dec 14, 2019 | 03:17 PM
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I seem to think on the SD forum a lot of people are replacing tubes or cleaning them along with using the sensor.
I deleted my tube and sensor long ago, along with the pedestal actuator & butterfly. Just left the sensor plug detached.
I personally had no issues after those mods.
But, I would like to know what the experts know and recommend.
 
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Old Dec 16, 2019 | 12:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Bobcatbob
I seem to think on the SD forum a lot of people are replacing tubes or cleaning them along with using the sensor.
I deleted my tube and sensor long ago, along with the pedestal actuator & butterfly. Just left the sensor plug detached.
I personally had no issues after those mods.
But, I would like to know what the experts know and recommend.
Did you use the sensor delete pigtail or plug the sensor and leave dangling? Thinking about going this route, but undecided.
 
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Old Dec 16, 2019 | 12:27 PM
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Mine is currently flopping about, pipe was all plugged up as was sensor. Truck has been fine for about 25k since I have owned it.

I read into it on the factory manual, best I can figure it is for controlling the EBPV by utilizing this sensor, the IAT in the box, and the oil temp sensor. No clue on the fueling stuff I have read online, I am chipped so probably irrelevant to me. It also seems like a good place to pop in a pyro!
 
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Old Dec 16, 2019 | 01:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Hit Man X
Mine is currently flopping about, pipe was all plugged up as was sensor. Truck has been fine for about 25k since I have owned it.

I read into it on the factory manual, best I can figure it is for controlling the EBPV by utilizing this sensor, the IAT in the box, and the oil temp sensor. No clue on the fueling stuff I have read online, I am chipped so probably irrelevant to me. It also seems like a good place to pop in a pyro!
From what I have read it seems that some tuners tune around the EBPS and mostly people running a stock truck see any difference from a clean and working sensor. I know it made a difference in my truck and I have the deleted ped with the sensor fooler, (I hate CEL and stored codes). After installing the sensor the first time starting the truck it was a hard start and for the first few minutes of driving it seemed to not run right. After driving for a few minutes everything seemed to level out. Also the truck seems quieter now at idle. This morning was our coldest of the year so far. 33 degrees, truck had set for 2 days without starting so I figured I would give it a try. One cycle of glow plugs and she fired right up. That made me happy. Almost no smoke just a small amount for a few seconds. Ran AE CCT after installing the EBPS and that passed. No codes, passed CCT I think any more "fixing" would be fixing until I break it (been there done that). Now its time to move to checking wheel bearings and rear brakes and when I get the $$ some body work.
 
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EBPS tube didnt do anything for me by replacing it
My sensor works well
If the exhaust is plugged up, then it will defuel
if EBPS dont read right, auto trans shifting can be weird at times
 
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Old Dec 16, 2019 | 04:53 PM
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Originally Posted by afmedic
Did you use the sensor delete pigtail or plug the sensor and leave dangling? Thinking about going this route, but undecided.
No sensor. Just a pigtail plug covered & tie wrapped to harness.
 
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Old Dec 16, 2019 | 04:55 PM
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The exhaust backpressure sensor has nothing to do with the exhaust backpressure valve. EBPV operation is based on temperature you can unplug the EBPS and EBPV will still work normally, if you delete the EBPV the EBPS still serves the same purpose.
 
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Old Dec 16, 2019 | 07:11 PM
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I just did a Google search:
"Ford 7.3 OBS exhaust back pressure sensor function"

There are quotes from service manuals, tuners, experts, Sort of experts, and everyone in between.
The amount of information is staggering.
Great way to spend your night.

I kept finding references to poor MPG with the sensor unplugged. My 400k truck gets 20 to 23.5 mpg at 70mph, depending on the wind direction.
Next year I'm going to do a test and buy a new tube and reinstall the sensor. Heck, I might get 25 to 30mpg.
Every time I read about this topic I want to start drinking again.
Bob
 
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Old Dec 16, 2019 | 07:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Bobcatbob
I just did a Google search:
"Ford 7.3 OBS exhaust back pressure sensor function"

There are quotes from service manuals, tuners, experts, Sort of experts, and everyone in between.
The amount of information is staggering.
Great way to spend your night.

I kept finding references to poor MPG with the sensor unplugged. My 400k truck gets 20 to 23.5 mpg at 70mph, depending on the wind direction.
Next year I'm going to do a test and buy a new tube and reinstall the sensor. Heck, I might get 25 to 30mpg.
Every time I read about this topic I want to start drinking again.
Bob
It is a funny topic. Like you said I have read a ton about the sensor and its function and I think I know less about it than when I knew nothing. I am just sharing my experience with replacing the tube and sensor. I saw one tuner I cant remember who, recommend to at least T the sensor into the map if you dont want to use the exhaust tube and deal with the carbon build up and crap. It is such an easy maintenance item that I really dont mind. As you said with as long as these engines have been around I find it funny that you can't find a definitive explanation on exactly what that sensor does. Weird
 
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Old Dec 16, 2019 | 08:01 PM
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I've been on here for 15 years or so and its always have been the same conversation as above. I filled my tube up with WD40 and let it sit for a couple of days to clean it out.
 
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Old Dec 17, 2019 | 06:59 AM
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I couldn’t get mine unclogged and had to remove it and heat it red hot with an OA torch to burn the carbon out of it. I deleted the EBPV and the only thing I use the sensor for is comparing boost to backpressure. If someone wanted to bad enough they could make a few identical runs using AE or some other scan tool with and without the sensor connected and see if anything changes.
 
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