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Old Dec 20, 2019 | 04:47 AM
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Why not have the block and crank machined and completely refresh the engine? Do you know how much mileage is on the engine? Just a hone and rings may yield a very disappointing result.
 
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Old Dec 20, 2019 | 07:07 AM
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More then likely the 1904 Holley you bought was for a different application, there were many different models and used on many other cars/trucks, Jeeps etc...
 
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Old Dec 20, 2019 | 09:27 AM
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Why not have the block and crank machined and completely refresh the engine? Do you know how much mileage is on the engine? Just a hone and rings may yield a very disappointing result.
Complete overhaul would be the right way. This is a low budget dump truck I use on my property mostly to haul sand a half mile away to the dry river bank. In seven years Imaybe have driven fifty miles. It will likely never see asphalt road. Odometer says 55k. Was a city maintenance vehicle auctioned off and owned by two other owners here in the desert before me. Don't know about first guy but the second guy didn't drive it much. Used it to pull skid steer for weekend side jobs. It had sat a long time when I bought it.
 
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Old Dec 20, 2019 | 09:39 AM
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Good luck, hope you can get it going
 
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Old Dec 20, 2019 | 06:50 PM
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I understand low budget. It is just the physical challenge to doing it while sitting in the frame that makes me tired just thinking about it! LOL
 
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Old Dec 20, 2019 | 07:03 PM
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I decided to pull it out. It isn't as cold here as some places, high twenties in morning and 50 if lucky by noon but the thought of crawling under again on that cold cement was too much. Will have it out tomorrow.
 
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Old Dec 20, 2019 | 08:32 PM
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Work you didn't plan on but will save you in the end.
 
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Old Dec 22, 2019 | 12:21 AM
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Work you didn't plan on but will save you in the end.
Got it out easy enough. Just curious if you pulled and reinstalled your engine assembled? I was able to use short 7/16" bolts in head bolt holes. There is not many places to chain onto the passenger side with head on. Just curious.
 
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Old Dec 23, 2019 | 06:00 PM
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Yes, I used the head bolt threads as well. Ford used to sell a special tool/hook, that went down between and under the manifold which you could pull it with. (pics of it have been posted here and it is pictured in the factory shop manual), I didn't mind having the valve cover of anyway since it is so tight when pulling that long thing out with the front clip still in place.
 
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Old Dec 23, 2019 | 10:45 PM
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Yes, I used the head bolt threads as well. Ford used to sell a special tool/hook, that went down between and under the manifold which you could pull it with. (pics of it have been posted here and it is pictured in the factory shop manual), I didn't mind having the valve cover of anyway since it is so tight when pulling that long thing out with the front clip still in place.
So, did you torque all the head bolts after putting rebuilt motor in truck or just the two you lifted it by?

Mine came out pretty easy. Had to remove front wheel t get hoist in from side.
 
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Old Dec 26, 2019 | 06:18 PM
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I took head off and did a valve job so yes, all were done. I did a complete tear down. My crank was so worn I had to find another one.
 
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Old Dec 26, 2019 | 08:17 PM
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My question was about torquing the head bolts. If you torque the head bolts and then removed two to pick up engine or torqued all after putting engine in? Or put block in and then installed head?
 
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Old Dec 27, 2019 | 06:12 AM
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My question was about torquing the head bolts. If you torque the head bolts and then removed two to pick up engine or torqued all after putting engine in? Or put block in and then installed head?
I would not lift the assembled engine by 2 head bolts without the remainder being tightened first, too much chance of the head/gasket/block moving in relation to one another and causing a leak.

I would torque all the head bolts, remove the two you need to lift the engine and install block and head. After lifting reinstall the two head bolts, tighten, then re-torque all head bolts.

I would also consider installing the engine, then the cylinder head. The lift will be easier and the engine is very accessible. In this case, I would not use head bolts to lift the engine as you stand a chance of bending one. Use a correctly sized, shorter bolt which will also give you more height to get past the radiator support.

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Old Dec 27, 2019 | 09:41 AM
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I would not lift the assembled engine by 2 head bolts without the remainder being tightened first, too much chance of the head/gasket/block moving in relation to one another and causing a leak.

I would torque all the head bolts, remove the two you need to lift the engine and install block and head. After lifting reinstall the two head bolts, tighten, then re-torque all head bolts.

I would also consider installing the engine, then the cylinder head. The lift will be easier and the engine is very accessible. In this case, I would not use head bolts to lift the engine as you stand a chance of bending one. Use a correctly sized, shorter bolt which will also give you more height to get past the radiator support.

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Yes, I used short bolts when I removed mine as I had removed head first. I was concerned about putting it back in. I know you are supposed to tighten and torque in sequence. I didn't know if it would affect anything removing two to lift.
 
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Old Dec 27, 2019 | 10:05 AM
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Now the engine

Be sure to have the cam bearings replaced. That is the one thing that cannot be replaced with a “in frame” overhaul.
Pulling the engine is always the best way. I grew up working at my Dad’s mechanic shop and he was one of the type that believed in rebuilding the engine in the vehicle. I definitely do not miss those days!
 
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