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Old Nov 21, 2019 | 09:47 PM
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Need HELP! replacing split rim wheels

I just bought a 1967 Ford 350 dually and thought that putting new tires on it would be no harder than taking it to the local tire dealer and getting it done. Then I found out that it has split rims and everyone ran away in panic (don't know that I blame them) ANYWAY... they tell me that the wheels are 16" 8 x 6.5 and have a 9/16" stud. It would seem that the only way I can confirm this and find wheels for the truck is to buy one and take it over there and see if it will fit on the truck. I hear all kinds of opinions but no one so far has had actual knowledge of what it is that I need to do. If anyone can advise on what to do or NOT do, please let me know so I can avoid as many pitfalls as possible. It looks simple to order wheels online, but the one universal statement is that no, that won't work due to a myriad of reasons. I intend to replace the wheels, but so far have no 100% YES this is the wheel you want and it will fit... hence the reason I will have to go buy one locally and take it over and fit it to the truck.

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Old Nov 21, 2019 | 10:18 PM
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Welcome! Search is your friend.

Lots of topics on this.

You will want a 16 or 17” 8 lug by 6.5” bolt circle (8X6.5). These were on Ford F-250 and 350 up to (but not including) Super Duty. E250 and E350 also, and they went into the 2000s.

Dodge will fit also.

you can put up to 31s (285 75R16) on without issue. Skinnier if you like.

I also just got a 67 F250 last weekend and it has split rims also. Found a set of van wheels (16 by 7.5 wide) locally that I will blast and powder coat. Then put 285 75s on them.

 
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Old Nov 22, 2019 | 06:20 AM
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Summit sells 16 inch wheels for that truck.(Dorman brand of wheels)...they will bolt right up...about 80 bucks each...they accept the original hub caps etc. In the case of my F250 no tire larger than a 265 75 16 will fit the front.....because of the alignment CASTER angle...the right front lower fender corner has an Inch and a half of space between it and the tire tread....new coil springs should lift my truck so that improves a little but mine is a F250 so Im not sure about the ride height and if your fender clearance is as close as mine is ....

fresh wheels and tires and of course paint.

trying on wheels...these from Summit work.

 
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Old Nov 22, 2019 | 07:04 AM
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He can't use any of those wheels in the posts above. The wheels the OP needs are common and sold under the Accuride brand. They are standard 16x16.5 DRW, make sure the center bore is the large bore not the GM style. Be advised later wheels became hub centric on the DRW and you need conical.
 
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Old Nov 22, 2019 | 08:11 AM
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Thanks for that information, it all helps. Where I am getting hung up is the dually wheels. I guess I am going next to the used parts guys (Dallas Ft.Worth) so I should have a chance to find something. I was hoping to find them new, but at this point I will take anything I can get.
 
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Old Nov 22, 2019 | 03:56 PM
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Split rims are fine if you respect them. The shops in the city won't touch them but both the CoOp and the local tire sellers here will work with them. They charge $25/rim to replace the tires/tubes but they will work with them. I have two piece on my '63 F250 and have no plans to change them out. The GF's father runs them on his old 3/4 ton chore truck. Lots of farm trucks here have them. I understand that they can be dangerous but if you have the cage to inflate them and watch tire pressures you can run them.
 
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Old Nov 22, 2019 | 04:51 PM
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Originally Posted by ford390gashog
He can't use any of those wheels in the posts above. The wheels the OP needs are common and sold under the Accuride brand. They are standard 16x16.5 DRW, make sure the center bore is the large bore not the GM style. Be advised later wheels became hub centric on the DRW and you need conical.
Correct.

A 16" tubeless dual wheel became available on the F350s around 1979. The OP needs what is commonly referred to as 'coined' wheels. They are available new and Dodge used a similar wheel from the late 70's until the body change in '94.

Be aware there are other less popular tubeless options in 16.5" and 17.5" diameters. These will work but tire sizes tend to be limited and more expensive than a similar sized 16".
 
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Old Nov 22, 2019 | 06:00 PM
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YES... my tire dealer said that they were a coined wheel which I suppose references the edge of a coin similar to a quarter... don't know where that surface appears... but that is what they told me. I am trying the search for messages here, but must not be doing it correctly. Tried calling distributors again today and no one can find a wheel to fit. I have one source for steel wheels that we think might be correct, but that is all that we have found between us. All your information is greatly appreciated and I am passing it along.
 
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Old Nov 23, 2019 | 10:23 AM
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I have a 1967 Ford F-250 and am looking to put together an original set of 16" X 5.5" split rim wheels. Not sure what I should be looking for though. Here's what I have found so far...

1967 F-250 16" X 5.5" wheels were a factory option. They came with either the innie or outie hubcaps tabs. I've seen three different types of rim locks - one that was solid, one that was split with a straight cut, and even one that was split with a jagged cut. Not sure what was true to this model and year. Not even sure if this is the right width I should be looking for. I understand both Bud and Firestone made these wheels, maybe even Kelsey Hayes.

Any photos or description of the wheels you have on your 1967 Ford F-250 would be appreciated.

My truck came with 16.5s from the factory according to the Marti report. I had three still left on the truck and have found two more to match. So I will soon have a factory original setup. Now I want to complete another set of 5 16" wheels with the lock rings. I will run these with winter tires. I've found a couple sources but not sure how to confirm these are specific to my year and model.

I see no problem running the split rims on my truck in terms of performance and safety. About half the tire shops around me will work on them without a second thought, the other half will not and tell me I should get rid of them. Technically these are not "split rims" but more "rim lock" or "locking ring" wheels. I've run them on another 1967 and had absolutely no problem getting tires and having someone work on them. They just take more skill and attention than regular consumer tire shops can offer with their staff. Truck tires shops have no problem with these. I've got at least 4 places to go with 45 miles.

I don't mine the innie hub cap style though I understand these are much harder to find. I do see them around. But if the outies were also used for this year and model, I could go with those and just swap hubcaps. Part of me just wants to find the inne style since those seem harder to find and rarer, and then keep a second set of hubcaps.

If anyone has some of those, I'd be interested.
 
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Old Nov 23, 2019 | 10:39 AM
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Solid Locking Ring...



Split Locking Ring...


 
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Old Nov 23, 2019 | 10:46 AM
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Straight Split Locking Ring...



Solid Locking Ring...


 
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Old Nov 23, 2019 | 10:57 AM
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8 lug wheels on a 6.50" bolt circle: 1953/96 F250 // 1967/97 F350 // 1969/74 E300 // 1975/2013 E250/350 // 1997 F250 H/D
 
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Old Nov 23, 2019 | 11:18 AM
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Jagged locking ring, maybe a dually configuration, but probably not a Ford wheel...



 
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Old Nov 23, 2019 | 11:27 AM
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Questions pertaining to 1967 Ford F-250 Camper Special...

1. Would innie or outie hubcaps tabs be used? Or either?
2. Would 2 piece locking rings or 1 piece wheels be used? Or either?
3. Could a locking ring wheel also be called a Drop Center or Semi Drop Center?
4. Would the locking ring be solid, straight split, or jagged split?
4. What color would these have been painted?

Thanks.
 
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Old Nov 23, 2019 | 12:42 PM
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Originally Posted by LLudwig
YES... my tire dealer said that they were a coined wheel which I suppose references the edge of a coin similar to a quarter...
"Coined" refers to the alternating convex-concave lug seats. If you pull all of your lug nuts off, you should see the wheel has tapers around each stud 4 tapers point in, 4 point out. This is one way to center and interlock (rear duals) the wheels on the hub.

For the other poster, I recommend googling "OSHA split rim" you will get several hits for a .PDF document that describes how to handle multi-piece wheels and what rings fit which wheels. This is the only current publication that I know of that has this information and is readily available to the public.
 
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