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Old Nov 17, 2019 | 10:53 AM
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Last night the neighbor brought home a 1937 Ford 4 door sedan with a vin# C30638. Can anything be gleaned from this number, or is this before the more complex numbers were instituted?
 
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Old Nov 17, 2019 | 11:25 AM
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Originally Posted by MannyF750
Last night the neighbor brought home a 1937 Ford 4 door sedan with a vin# C30638. Can anything be gleaned from this number, or is this before the more complex numbers were instituted?
Where did you find this number, on the engine block? There were no VIN's back then, vehicles were registered by their specific engine number.

On Ford's, the engine number was also stamped on the hogshead.
 
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Old Nov 17, 2019 | 01:26 PM
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Thanx ND, the number was from the title. When I get home tonight I'll ask him if I can take a look at the engine. And just so I don't look to goofy, where's the hogshead?
 

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Old Nov 17, 2019 | 01:48 PM
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Top of transmission 1/2-bellhousing, just behind the half of the bellhousing that is part of the block. Probably not easy to see with the engine installed (and covered with crud).

 
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Old Nov 17, 2019 | 02:19 PM
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It wasn't unusual practice in the past for some states to assign a title number.
 
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Old Nov 17, 2019 | 02:56 PM
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Got it. Enjoy the rest of the evening.
 
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Old Nov 17, 2019 | 03:02 PM
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Ford also stamped the serial number on the frame, too. It's typically found on the left side frame rail near the steering box. Back then, the title/registration always referred to the engine number, but way too often the engines were swapped out with rebuilt or remanufactured engines, and the correct engine with the registration number was lost. It made it difficult to identify vehicles by the engine number when the engine had been replaced. That's why Ford stamped the engine number on the frame and transmission instead.
 
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Old Nov 18, 2019 | 11:02 AM
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If that's the only number on the title, it isn't the original serial number.
The original number really only tells you what engine the car had.
You might have better luck asking in the '47 and older group.
 
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I have a 40 Ford coupe and it is my understanding that the number on the frame was transferred from the engine number stamping as the chassis was being constructed. It has also been said that not every chassis got stamped. In those days the numbers were used for production purposes and not so government bureaucrats could track it.
 
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Old Nov 18, 2019 | 11:37 AM
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Any chance that's a Canadian s/n? OP is in Michigan, not far away...
 
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Old Nov 18, 2019 | 02:13 PM
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Hard to say. US production serial numbers were a continuation for many years. By 37, the serial number would have been much larger. It may have even been an invoice number someone wrote on a document some time, not knowing what the correct number to use was.

Early Ford Serial Numbers For Cars and Trucks Manufactured for the USA Market from 1932 to 1953
 
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