It bothers me
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Tuned
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It bothers me
While watching the videos about the 10 speed trans and the new 6.7 diesel, I here the Ford engineers use phrases like "taking weight out" ,"cutting costs" and the words
unnecessary and lighter. To me those are red flags and I interpret that as meaning cheap, and cheaper. How can the new 10 speed be only 3 pounds heavier? They have
had to reduce the robustness compared to the 6r140 in order to do that. And then steel pistons on top of PM rods. I would pay extra for a nice set of beefy forged steel rods right from the factory. Seems they are designing parts that are strong enough to just get by. Thoughts?
unnecessary and lighter. To me those are red flags and I interpret that as meaning cheap, and cheaper. How can the new 10 speed be only 3 pounds heavier? They have
had to reduce the robustness compared to the 6r140 in order to do that. And then steel pistons on top of PM rods. I would pay extra for a nice set of beefy forged steel rods right from the factory. Seems they are designing parts that are strong enough to just get by. Thoughts?
Tuned
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By “vibrating steering wheel” do you mean death wobble?
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no. dont the steering wheel vibrate when you change lanes ? lets be real here. 70k dollars and they use cheap made in china shocks. its shameful to say the least.
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The only reason to build a diesel engine / transmission that is designed to last more than 100,000 miles, is you
lose market share to a competitor.
I've always said,
'Warranty war over power war anyday!"
lose market share to a competitor.
I've always said,
'Warranty war over power war anyday!"
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Um, is your Lame Assist turned on by chance?
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While watching the videos about the 10 speed trans and the new 6.7 diesel, I here the Ford engineers use phrases like "taking weight out" ,"cutting costs" and the words
unnecessary and lighter. To me those are red flags and I interpret that as meaning cheap, and cheaper. How can the new 10 speed be only 3 pounds heavier? They have
had to reduce the robustness compared to the 6r140 in order to do that. And then steel pistons on top of PM rods. I would pay extra for a nice set of beefy forged steel rods right from the factory. Seems they are designing parts that are strong enough to just get by. Thoughts?
unnecessary and lighter. To me those are red flags and I interpret that as meaning cheap, and cheaper. How can the new 10 speed be only 3 pounds heavier? They have
had to reduce the robustness compared to the 6r140 in order to do that. And then steel pistons on top of PM rods. I would pay extra for a nice set of beefy forged steel rods right from the factory. Seems they are designing parts that are strong enough to just get by. Thoughts?
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Tuned
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Red flags? Does it bother you that strides in technology and metallurgy are naturally being achieved? Stronger alloys, plastic composite advancements, fiber advancements, all stronger and lighter where weight does not equal strength? The Powerstroke’s CGI block compared to cast iron may be a great place to start learning..
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And you have a confirming link, or is this your opinion?
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If the 10 speed they put in the Super Duty is anything like what has been in the several F150's I've had the occasion to drive, then I don't want any part of it.
Every F150 I've driven that has the 10 speed in it has sucked.
Every F150 I've driven that has the 10 speed in it has sucked.
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And the 10 speed in our Expedition sold me. Too bad it doesn’t matter, because the HD 10 speed is a completely different animal.
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The new AAM connecting rod costs $42.94 while the older 6.7 that was manufactured by Mahle is $99.99. Both rods weigh the same and have
a different shape. The main bearings have a scuff coating but only on the bottom half. When I use coated bearings in my engines they are coated on both halves.
Ford must save a 10 or 15 cents there. TTY fasteners. These are just a few examples.
a different shape. The main bearings have a scuff coating but only on the bottom half. When I use coated bearings in my engines they are coated on both halves.
Ford must save a 10 or 15 cents there. TTY fasteners. These are just a few examples.