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Old Oct 27, 2019 | 02:18 PM
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help! starter relay

87 5 liter f150 wont crank STILL . Replaced key lock cylinder , ignition switch , starter solenoid -- (jumped the starter by the way & it works fine ) ,Does anyone know where the starter relay is located in these trucks - Thats the only thing I havent replaced . You can hear the fuel pump cut on when you try to crank but that is it --no power getting to starter . I dont see a fuse box ,usually where the relays are on all vehicles I have worked on .
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Old Oct 27, 2019 | 04:49 PM
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Passenger side inner fender
 
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Old Oct 27, 2019 | 05:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Mudsport96
Passenger side inner fender
Passenger side inner fender is where I REPLACED the starter solenoid --Is the solenoid & relay together in the same unit ?
 
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Old Oct 27, 2019 | 05:52 PM
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You may have a grounding issue.
 
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Old Oct 27, 2019 | 07:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Will Joyce
--Is the solenoid & relay together in the same unit ?
Yes it is on your 1987 truck.

Under #1 you said you jumped the starter, what method did you use? We need to know to help you in troubleshooting.
 
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Old Oct 27, 2019 | 09:08 PM
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If you have a voltage testing meter, pull the small wire off of the solenoid and have someone crank the engine. If you don't have 12v at that wire the solenoid won't pull in to power the starter.
 
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Old Oct 28, 2019 | 05:03 AM
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sounds like the ignition actuator broke.
do you feel resistance when you go from run to start? does the key return to run from start position or stay in start?
 
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Old Oct 28, 2019 | 07:48 AM
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Originally Posted by 88n94
Yes it is on your 1987 truck.

Under #1 you said you jumped the starter, what method did you use? We need to know to help you in troubleshooting.
Jumped from the small post on the starter solenoid to the positive (or hot post) -starter worked
 
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Old Oct 28, 2019 | 07:51 AM
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when I replaced the switch after dropping the steering coluum , THE actuater rod was moving back & forth when I turned the key to on then off . So I assumed the actuater was ok ??
 
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Old Oct 28, 2019 | 09:19 AM
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when I replaced the switch after dropping the steering coluum , THE actuater rod was moving back & forth when I turned the key to on then off . So I assumed the actuater was ok ??
Just because the actuator is working doesnt mean you have voltage traveling to where it needs to go. Need to see if you have voltage at the small wire.

You said you jumped the posts and the starter worked, so the solenoid is working. Which means you dont have power at the wire that makes the solenoid engage.
If it's a manual check the clutch switch, if it's an automatic check the range selector to make sure it's in park.
 
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Old Oct 28, 2019 | 10:26 AM
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So i just got my truck last wednesday and had the same exact issue. I replaced ALL the ground cables that go from the starter and the battery terminals also.

Heres how i did it. Not saying its correct but it worked for me.

All cables i bought from the local autozone/ O'Rileys.

I used 3 in total.

I have:
1 from the starter to the battery terminal.
1 from the alternator to the battery terminal.
1 from the battery terminal to the fender wall.
Also replaced the positive side "red" terminal cable.





I did not replace the cable from the starter to the starter solenoid only because like you if i jump the starter solenoid it turns the starter over. I wish I would have though since i was down there and got all kinds of greasy. I will replace it soon enough.

I now have all my lights working and the truck turns over from the column with the key.


Good luck buddy.
 
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Old Oct 28, 2019 | 03:29 PM
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Wow thank you for taking the time for all this detailed info . Reaaly appreciate this

May have to do this --Will chk the clutch switch & the actuater rod ubder the steering wheel also
 
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Old Oct 28, 2019 | 03:33 PM
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Thanks for the reply -didnt think of the clutch safety switch Duh ! Is that switch located on the inside above the clutch pedal or on the firewall side
 
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Old Oct 28, 2019 | 08:46 PM
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Old Oct 29, 2019 | 05:30 AM
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I bet you it is the safety switch, actuator rod, or shift mechanism not going into "park" if its an automatic truck.
 
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