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Old Oct 25, 2019 | 05:32 PM
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Timing problems?

So I've recently done a lot of work on my truck and had it running perfect for about five weeks. Then the other day the truck started to backfire and stall out of nowhere. This problem is intermittent and doesn't happen consistently. I tried to check the timing again so I disconnected the spout connector and the truck runs perfect, but when i plug the spout connector back in it stalls. I replaced the computer and icm which did nothing. Maybe the distributor?
 
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I have seen threads on this before and there are several things that can cause this. The pip in the distributor is one of them. I would suggest you run your diagnostic codes to see if the issue can be pinpointed more specifically. Did you just recently replace the distributor when you "did a lot of work" on the truck? Did you replace the ICM with the same color that was in it? Did you put thermal paste on the ICM when you installed it? Did your new PCM have the same exact numbers as the old one? Sandy
 
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Old Oct 26, 2019 | 03:52 PM
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I have seen threads on this before and there are several things that can cause this. The pip in the distributor is one of them. I would suggest you run your diagnostic codes to see if the issue can be pinpointed more specifically. Did you just recently replace the distributor when you "did a lot of work" on the truck? Did you replace the ICM with the same color that was in it? Did you put thermal paste on the ICM when you installed it? Did your new PCM have the same exact numbers as the old one? Sandy
Yes I did replace the distributor recently. I also ran the codes and it threw codes for lean in banks 1 and 2. The spark advance on the live data jumps from like 11 to 28 in a matter of seconds at idle.
 
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Old Oct 26, 2019 | 03:56 PM
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Timing doing that with SPOUT in or out? Did the running issue start shortly after putting in the distributor? What brand did you get? Sandy
 
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Old Oct 26, 2019 | 03:58 PM
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Timing doing that with SPOUT in or out? Did the running issue start shortly after putting in the distributor? What brand did you get? Sandy
It only does it with spout in. It's a Cardone reman and it ran for about a month after putting it in with no issues.
 
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Old Oct 26, 2019 | 04:03 PM
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That is normal. The computer takes control when the spout is in. With it out is when you set your base timing and it should not jump. Is the distributor or computer Cardone?
 
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That is normal. The computer takes control when the spout is in. With it out is when you set your base timing and it should not jump. Is the distributor or computer Cardone?

Should it be advancing that much? The timing mark is bouncing back and forth when I put a timing light on it. It's almost like it advances too much and then dies. The computer and distributor are both Cardone remans
 
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Old Oct 26, 2019 | 04:10 PM
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Yes it could depending on the info the computer is getting. You can only correctly set timing with the spout out. I have had good luck with the Cardone computers but have never used one of their distributors. Have you run codes since the problem arose? You should be getting something on codes.
 
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Old Oct 26, 2019 | 04:12 PM
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Yes it could depending on the info the computer is getting. You can only correctly set timing with the spout out. I have had good luck with the Cardone computers but have never used one of their distributors. Have you run codes since the problem arose? You should be getting something on codes.
I set the initial timing with it out. And then when I put it back in it starts to run rough and stall. I ran the codes and only have to two lean codes, nothing else.
 
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The lean codes usually are the result of a bad or failing O2sensor. I have some PIP info. Give me a few and I will check it out for you.
 
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The lean codes usually are the result of a bad or failing O2sensor. I have some PIP info. Give me a few and I will check it out for you.
All three o2 sensors are new as well
 
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Old Oct 26, 2019 | 04:34 PM
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Look at this thread and what RLA and subford posted https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...rning-why.html
 
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Can the stator be replaced independently from the distributor? This sounds like my problem
 
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