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block heater
I just bought a new 2019 F250. I am not sure if i have the block heater element installed from the factory or not. I need to take a look. I bought the truck in NJ and I live in NY. Im not sure if NJ trucks had the element installed or not. What was the cause of the recall they had and was it the wire? I plan on having it installed anyway and hopefully i do have the element. Also is there place to see the build sheet for my truck if i put in the vin? I always used my block heater on my old 7.3 during the really cold night in NY (upstate) I may not need it this year but as the truck gets older it will be a easier start in the morning. thanks Jeff
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I just bought a new 2019 F250. I am not sure if i have the block heater element installed from the factory or not. I need to take a look. I bought the truck in NJ and I live in NY. Im not sure if NJ trucks had the element installed or not. What was the cause of the recall they had and was it the wire? I plan on having it installed anyway and hopefully i do have the element. Also is there place to see the build sheet for my truck if i put in the vin? I always used my block heater on my old 7.3 during the really cold night in NY (upstate) I may not need it this year but as the truck gets older it will be a easier start in the morning. thanks Jeff
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It should have the block heater. The 2017 order guide states it is std in most northern states. I suspect the 2019 order guide is the same.
Engine Block Heater (Std. in AK, CO, IA, ID,
ME, MI, MN, MT, ND, NH, NY, SD, VT, WI,
WY)
Even thought is says STD for those areas, you can bet the price was adjusted to cover the cost that non-std areas would pay to install it.
Engine Block Heater (Std. in AK, CO, IA, ID,
ME, MI, MN, MT, ND, NH, NY, SD, VT, WI,
WY)
Even thought is says STD for those areas, you can bet the price was adjusted to cover the cost that non-std areas would pay to install it.
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The recall was the 2 piece electrical heating up & melting down. I don't think anything caught fire.
if you don't have it, you can go to Amazon or CarID or someone & buy the after market one with a single cord for about $40 +/-. Can't remember the brand but one of the ones available make Ford's for them. I believe it is around a 600 to 800 watt Heater.
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if you don't have it, you can go to Amazon or CarID or someone & buy the after market one with a single cord for about $40 +/-. Can't remember the brand but one of the ones available make Ford's for them. I believe it is around a 600 to 800 watt Heater.
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Sorry I got distracted. That was a two piece cord.
You'd think hat a two piece cord would be less expensive to replace the front cord if it gets damaged. Nope, it's ~$43 & it comes with both pieces.
I think I thought was Henry Ford's children who said "we can give the vehicles away & make up the difference on spare parts.
Then Bill Ford figured out that they could screw everyone on the price & the parts.
You'd think hat a two piece cord would be less expensive to replace the front cord if it gets damaged. Nope, it's ~$43 & it comes with both pieces.
I think I thought was Henry Ford's children who said "we can give the vehicles away & make up the difference on spare parts.
Then Bill Ford figured out that they could screw everyone on the price & the parts.
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thanks for the replies, looked under the truck or better yet through the wheel well. I can see the plug in the block. So no block heater element installed. Of course the dealer said it is very involved and had the have the coolant drained. If I remember correctly when i changed out mine on my 7.3 i just removed it plugged it fast the started putting in the new one little messy but no need to drain all the coolant out. I then topped off if needed. I am sure the same application applies here. So i will just buy the parts and do it myself. My 7.3 i used the heated most of the winter, made for smoother starts and heat faster in the cold mornings. I keep hearing that I don't need one on this truck etc. I'm looking down the road after i have this truck a few years and the batteries start to get weak or glow plugs get weak then the heater helps out the starts. Its a lot easier to install it now when the truck is new that wait for that plug to get ll crusty... old habits are hard to change i guess like plugging in the truck at night I use a timer so its only on for 3 hours before i leave for work. thanks
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I didn't use my block heater at all last year (18 to 19) but I don't think it was that cold either. My first winter, picked the truck up in January 2017, I used it more because it was colder. My first diesel so I really can't comment like someone else here who has had other, older diesel trucks about whether you need it that much. I guess I like having it to keep warmup time to a minimum as I have a long steep hill to climb right by my house. Maybe I'll use it more this year so the oil is warmer and easier to start with less start up wear.
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thanks for the replies, looked under the truck or better yet through the wheel well. I can see the plug in the block. So no block heater element installed. Of course the dealer said it is very involved and had the have the coolant drained. If I remember correctly when i changed out mine on my 7.3 i just removed it plugged it fast the started putting in the new one little messy but no need to drain all the coolant out. I then topped off if needed. I am sure the same application applies here. So i will just buy the parts and do it myself.
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I wrapped my replacement electrical cord end to end with heat wrap before I installed it. The OEM cord was wrapped in areas close to the exhaust & starter. By wrapping end to end, I didn't have to guess where it needed to be wrapped so there was no marking & pulling it out to heat wrap then reinstall.
I only have to use the block heater when the temps go below 0°. Using the block heater doesn't make the cab heater work any faster either so unless you have the auxiliary electric heater, it's about the same as a cold start & drive til the engine warms up for my 2015.
At 10° below 0, heating up the crew cab is like heating the barn. I keep the heated seat on high. Cab heat does blow hot air after ~15min.
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I only have to use the block heater when the temps go below 0°. Using the block heater doesn't make the cab heater work any faster either so unless you have the auxiliary electric heater, it's about the same as a cold start & drive til the engine warms up for my 2015.
At 10° below 0, heating up the crew cab is like heating the barn. I keep the heated seat on high. Cab heat does blow hot air after ~15min.
Joe
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Yes, they will start in extreme temperatures, but it is not about starting. It is better for the engine if it is warmed.
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I agree 110%. These modern diesels will fire up in really cold temps, but it's about preventing the wear and tear when the oil is flowing like molasses. I'm going to keep this in mind this year now that we are talking about this when it drops far below 30 degrees here. It doesn't happen a lot but enough. Great point.
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I agree 110%. These modern diesels will fire up in really cold temps, but it's about preventing the wear and tear when the oil is flowing like molasses. I'm going to keep this in mind this year now that we are talking about this when it drops far below 30 degrees here. It doesn't happen a lot but enough. Great point.
https://www.dummies.com/home-garden/...eather-starts/
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