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Ok maybe I'm an idiot, but I can't make this OEM battery hold down (mainly the side support that bolts to the inner fender) look correct no matter which way I try. How is this supposed to go together?
Ok maybe I'm an idiot, but I can't make this OEM battery hold down (mainly the side support that bolts to the inner fender) look correct no matter which way I try. How is this supposed to go together?
What are the applications for this plastic battery hold down and do you know what the Ford part number is?
There are several different types of these plastic battery hold downs, but only one is correct.
It's D0DZ-10718-B and it's the same: 1970/73 Maverick/Comet, 1965/66 F100/250 2WD, 1966 F100 4WD, 1967/72 F100/350.
The type that was used on Galaxie/LTD/T-Bird/Fairlane/Torino and etc. looks similar, but it's different.
don’t know exactly without actually playing with it.
was the hold down being used before, or is it new?
maybe either flip it around (try the engine side on the fender side), or take the battery out and see if you can re-attach it without the battery just to see what may be wrong
ND,
This is a Dennis Carpenter DODZ-10718-A. Truck is a 71 F100. Battery is a group 24 which may be causing issues. Does the side support go over the top edge of the battery, and the hold down sandwiches on top of that like my pic?
The original C5AZ hold down was steel with a rubberized coating. The coating hardened, chipped off, battery acid caused it to corrode. At some point after 1970, Ford replaced it with the plastic hold down.
The J hooks are the same, but you cannot use that nut/washer combination, because it won't fit.
Look at the pic at lower right, this is the original setup. Notice the hold down is flat where the J hooks pass thru.
The part that you need is the one at the bottom of the parts display that is metal rather than the plastic one. There is no pn# showing but Bill knows how to find the #. It is probably obsolete. That is the kind that I had before it rusted away.
The recess in the edge of the plastic (battery top) hold down bracket will not allow the side bracket (#10a691 in photo) to mount flush on top of it as shown in the original parts diagram. Honestly, I don't even see the purpose of side bracket #10a691) as it appears to offer no support. With the updated p/n plastic top bracket and 2 j hooks, the battery is absolutely rock solid. But I do wish that I could make it work so that it would be factory correct 🙁
The recess in the edge of the plastic (battery top) hold down bracket will not allow the side bracket (#10a691 in photo) to mount flush on top of it as shown in the original parts diagram. Honestly, I don't even see the purpose of side bracket #10a691) as it appears to offer no support. With the updated p/n plastic top bracket and 2 j hooks, the battery is absolutely rock solid.
But I do wish that I could make it work so that it would be factory correct .
But that's just it, it's not factory correct, because the original hold down was steel w/a rubberized coating.
The "Maverick/Comet" plastic battery hold down was a FoMoCo "campaign" aka "service part replacement" fixum.
But that's just it, it's not factory correct, because the original hold down was steel w/a rubberized coating.
The "Maverick/Comet" plastic battery hold down was a FoMoCo "campaign" aka "service part replacement" fixum.
Ahh ok it's making a little more sense now......so the service replacement was never really designed as an exact replacement. In other words, the only way to make the original side support bracket work is to have one of the original C5AZ-10718-A metal top supports? If you have the plastic service replacement, use only the j hooks and nuts and call it a day?
Ahh ok it's making a little more sense now......so the service replacement was never really designed as an exact replacement. In other words, the only way to make the original side support bracket work is to have one of the original C5AZ-10718-A metal top supports? If you have the plastic service replacement, use only the j hooks and nuts and call it a day?
I remember when Ford made the change, using the cheap plastic Maverick hold down to replace the steel original. The steel hold down had corrosion problems, so the el cheapo Maverick solved the problem.
But that doesn't mean that people liked it, many did not...myself included...and I still don't.
That is not the correct plastic battery hold down shown in the picture that was used on the 1970's trucks. I don't know what it is from. The correct plastic ones resemble the previous steel ones with the rubber coating that Number Dummy is referring to in his response. Although the plastic ones are not actually correct for the pre-1970 trucks they are an ideal replacement for one of the corroded steel/rubberized ones--although not restoration correct. I have used the plastic ones on the older trucks and they fit perfectly. Once you have the correct steel or plastic hold down, the metal strap that attaches to the inner fender goes over top of the battery hold down. From memory, the Group 24 battery should be the correct battery.
That is not the correct plastic battery hold down shown in the picture that was used on the 1970's trucks. I don't know what it is from. The correct plastic ones resemble the previous steel ones with the rubber coating that Number Dummy is referring to in his response. Although the plastic ones are not actually correct for the pre-1970 trucks they are an ideal replacement for one of the corroded steel/rubberized ones--although not restoration correct. I have used the plastic ones on the older trucks and they fit perfectly. Once you have the correct steel or plastic hold down, the metal strap that attaches to the inner fender goes over top of the battery hold down. From memory, the Group 24 battery should be the correct battery.
Sorry, this is incorrect, the OP bought this D0DZ-10718-A plastic hold down from Carpenter, but the parts catalog for 1968/72 lists the exact same part number.
The D0DZ-10718-A part number was replaced by D0DZ-10718-B, but it's the same exact part. In the late 1980's, Ford changed the package quantity of a gazillion parts.
When the IDIOTS did this, they changed the part numbers suffix, rendering all the previous part numbers obsolete!
I worked the parts back counter for over 30 years, passed out dozens of these plastic hold downs...and what is pictured is correct.
Sorry, this is incorrect, the OP bought this D0DZ-10718-A plastic hold down from Carpenter, but the parts catalog for 1968/72 lists the exact same part number.
The D0DZ-10718-A part number was replaced by D0DZ-10718-B, but it's the same exact part. In the late 1980's, Ford changed the package quantity of a gazillion parts.
When the IDIOTS did this, they changed the part numbers suffix, rendering all the previous part numbers obsolete!
I worked the parts back counter for over 30 years, passed out dozens of these plastic hold downs...and what is pictured is correct.
I am far from being an expert but here is a reproduction plastic one that I am referring to which is nearly identical (if not identical) to the Ford ones that I have seen: https://shop.broncograveyard.com/Pla...uctinfo/28060/
I do use the original Ford version of this as a replacement on my 1967 F100's. It fits perfectly, just like the steel rubberized version.
I had a family business in the 1970's and we purchased one 1978 F150 and three 1979 F150's brand new. None came with the one shown by the OP. They all came with this hold down shown on the BG site. I will check my 1976's & 1977 tomorrow to confirm the same, however I am not the original owner so I can not be positive if they were original.
NumberDummy--Oh great one, please don't banish me to Ford he!l.
I did more homework. You are right. The one in the OP picture is shown for 67-72. The one I am talking about (and prefer as a better option) is D4MY-10718-A and is shown on a few sites as 1973-79 F100-F350. I am getting tired and didn't cross check it to the Ford parts manual. Long story short, it is the one that I personally recommend as a better functioning replacement or upgrade for the 67-72 trucks. I really do hate having non-original parts on a truck but this is one of those rare exceptions where it is an improvement where many people wouldn't catch it unless they are familiar with the details of these Ford trucks.
NumberDummy--Oh great one, please don't banish me to Ford he!l. I wouldn't do that, I want you around to pick on! Just kidding of course.
I did more homework. You are right. The one in the OP picture is shown for 67-72.
The one I am talking about (and prefer as a better option) is D4MY-10718-A and is shown on a few sites as 1973-79 F100-F350 (1973/76 isD0DZ-10718-B). I am getting tired and didn't cross check it to the Ford parts manual. Long story short, it is the one that I personally recommend as a better functioning replacement or upgrade for the 67-72 trucks. I really do hate having non-original parts on a truck but this is one of those rare exceptions where it is an improvement where many people wouldn't catch it unless they are familiar with the details of these Ford trucks.
G'night.
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