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Old Nov 14, 2019 | 11:45 AM
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Originally Posted by A&Pmech
This morning I hit a bridge joint and the bump steer lasted for a good bit so I ordered a Fox steering stabilizer. Hopefully it will fix my issues.
I have the stabilizer with DSC and it is a noticable improvement, I think the biggest change is caused by the polyurethane bushings, since they are stiffer, and that improves the steering feedback.

I will say that with the firmer settings, the return to center takes longer and the truck will tend to wander on a straight section of hwy. Annoying by my standards.
 
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Old Nov 14, 2019 | 01:04 PM
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Originally Posted by DSLTRK60
Girls, girls....enough. It is clear what A&Pmech means by bumpsteer. 'Steering feedback' is commonly referred as bumpsteer on the interwebs.

These newer trucks seem to suffer more steering feedback and I believe it to be caused by the reduced caster and changed scrub radius than the Gen 1 SD.
Bumpsteer adn Death Wobble are 2 different things, they are no one in the same. They have different approaches to resolve the issues

Originally Posted by A&Pmech
So that's the best you got? You are on very one of these threads about bump steer and death wobble and act like you are the all knowing. Numerous members have claimed that upgrading the steering stabilizer helped tremendously with the same symptoms that I experience. Then you come on here stating that it won't help followed by a sorry attempt at criticizing my ability in my profession.
Would putting on a NEW SS help with Bump Steer? Sure and IF that is what you want to do, "HELP" then fine go for it, me well I would not want to help it, I would rather fix it and it is quite easily fixable and if your SS was in good working order then there would be no need to swap!

All-knowing, not hardly, I still am learning. My first encounter with DW was in 1969. I worked as an Auto mech for 6 years putting myself thru college, later, I opened my own shop and had it for 7 years until I sold it. My shop focused on Jeeps, especially TJ which DW is not an option, but its OEM standards equipment. It took me over year to finally understand and figure out how to fix DW and keep it fixed, what to do at the first sign of it. If you don't like me passing that on then ignore!

I have never told you are anyone else not to put on a SS, nor have I ever said its a band aid!!!

As an A&P mech I thought highly of you, why, because I worked in that industry...sorry for that...
 
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Old Nov 14, 2019 | 02:23 PM
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Whats it caused by, caster on the higher trucks with the stiffer springs?

A good steering stabilizer as stated above fixed my bumpsteer. It was horrible before.
 
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Old Nov 14, 2019 | 02:46 PM
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I would say that while they are 2 different things that in the right situation that a worn SS could cause either one .
While I am no AP mechanic I do have 3 ASE Master certs & 1 advanced level cert .That I maintained most of them for 35 years .
My master Certs were in Medium/Heavy trucks , School buses , Engine machinist <which they no longer offer > and the advance cert is in L2 Medium/Heavy Truck Electric Diesel Engine Diagnosis . lol just throwing that out their .
 
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Old Nov 14, 2019 | 07:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Ffphil
I installed the fox dual stabilizer on my 2019 F350 and I really like it.
Is your truck stock, as in not lifted?

Originally Posted by Joe T
I dont think you can run the dual set up on stock height trucks, per what I’ve read.
Kelderman makes a drop bracket that fits under the tie-rod for installation of a dual FOX steering stabilizer. I have it but haven’t installed it yet.
 

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Old Nov 26, 2019 | 05:43 AM
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Well I've had my new steering stabilizer installed for a few days now and it's amazing the difference it made. The steering feels like it did when the truck was new. Bump steer has reduced and effectively reduced the oscillations felt afterward. Crazy how loose the steering had gotten in only 11k miles and a year of ownership.
 
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Old Nov 29, 2019 | 12:04 AM
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Does anyone think that the 2020 f350 might be better in terms of bump steer and death wobble?
 
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Old Nov 29, 2019 | 01:11 AM
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Does anyone think that the 2020 f350 might be better in terms of bump steer and death wobble?
I dont see why it would, I'm not aware of any changes to the front end components.
 
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Old Nov 29, 2019 | 02:42 AM
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Swapped out SS and there was a noticeable difference in BS IMO....

 
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Old Nov 29, 2019 | 01:38 PM
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Swapped out SS and there was a noticeable difference in BS IMO....
I just installed the 2.0 TS version. I saw an improvement too. I think there is a difference between bump steer and feeling bumps in the steering wheel. I definitely fell bumps in the wheel and sometimes they are pretty nasty. I don’t however, hit a bump and have the truck change direction and require corrective action to keep it straight. That’s my definition of bump steer.
 
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Old Nov 29, 2019 | 05:18 PM
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Originally Posted by jlamb02910
I just installed the 2.0 TS version. I saw an improvement too. I think there is a difference between bump steer and feeling bumps in the steering wheel. I definitely fell bumps in the wheel and sometimes they are pretty nasty. I don’t however, hit a bump and have the truck change direction and require corrective action to keep it straight. That’s my definition of bump steer.
Did the exact upgrade on my 2019 250 with 11k Miles. Same results as above.
 
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Old Nov 29, 2019 | 05:23 PM
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Is the 450’s SS the same as the 350’s? I have a 450 and most retailers list 250 or 350.
 
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Old Nov 29, 2019 | 06:35 PM
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Originally Posted by jlamb02910
I just installed the 2.0 TS version. I saw an improvement too. I think there is a difference between bump steer and feeling bumps in the steering wheel. I definitely fell bumps in the wheel and sometimes they are pretty nasty. I don’t however, hit a bump and have the truck change direction and require corrective action to keep it straight. That’s my definition of bump steer.
Whenever I would hit a bump the truck would be thrown off course but would also go into a low frequency high amplitude oscillation that could be felt heavily in the steering wheel. After replacing the steering stabilizer I have yet to experience either again.
 
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Old Dec 11, 2019 | 07:56 AM
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So is the correct part number 985-24-001 for the single ?

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Old Dec 11, 2019 | 08:03 AM
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I went with the Dual Rancho and my bump steer was totally eliminated, no more wandering or bump steer in the slightest. I actually left the stock one in place to see what the difference would be and I am really impressed with the steering now.
 
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