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So i bought a 64 P350 with the purpose of turning it into a food truck. Got the 292 running with a new starter, cleaned up the fuel system and switched over to a 2150 style carb. fired her up and she runs like a top! My question is if there is anything out of the ordinary about a 292 that was used in a "heavy duty" type application. i believe it is running a Borg Warner 5 speed trans first gear is all the way to the right in the rear position with second to the far left in the foreward position. Was wondering about timing advance as i plan on installing a new dizzy. Is compression the same as say an F100?. These P350's seem to be few and far between as is any information on them. Also i want to run headers on it to give it some more low end grunt. Worried about clearance issues as ive heard there are some with the "patriot" headers. New here so sorry if this post is in the wrong spot could not really figure where to post it. Thanks!
1964 P350 came with the Ford type 3.03 3 speed manual all synchromesh trans as standard equipment. The Borg-Warner T-87 H/D 3 speed was an option. Both are column shifted.
Also optional was the Borg-Warner T-98 4 speed, but there's no 5 speed of any kind listed in the parts catalog for a '64 P350.
P100/500 Warranty Plate located on the upper right corner of the dash panel, post a pic of it.
Hey thanks for the reply! I will get thoes pictures posted tomorrow certainly. That's exactly the type of info i am looking for. Well the trans is on the floor so im assuming it might be the t-98. Its pretty awesome to get to research this project. Thanks for the information!
So i got the pic of the placard. Now im truly confused! The trans is definatly a 5 speed. Ran the shifter through the gears just to double check. Also on the plate the rated hp is 135 isnt that low for a 292? i also checked the casting numbers to confirm that is the powerplant that is installed... S
o could i be looking at a drive train swap?
So i got the pic of the placard. Now im truly confused! The trans is definatly a 5 speed. Ran the shifter through the gears just to double check.
Also on the plate the rated hp is 135 isnt that low for a 292? (135 is the certifiednet HP, not the gross HP)? i also checked the casting numbers to confirm that is the powerplant that is installed.
P50 = P500 Parcel Delivery.
C = 292 2V
L = Michigan Truck Assembly Plant.
525739 = 1964, assembled April 1964.
154" Wheelbase.
P = Prime.
P500 Parcel Delivery, 15000 lbs. GVWR
85 = P series Parcel Delivery.
F = Borg-Warner T-98 4 Speed Manual Transmission.
42 = Timken model D100 Single Speed Rear Axle / 6.20-1 / 13,000 lbs. Rear Axle Capacity.
15,000 lbs. Gross Vehicle Weight Rating.
135 net HP @ 3,800 RPM
730236:
73 = Salt Lake City UT Ford District Sales Office, where the original selling dealer ordered the P500 from.
0236 = Domestic Special Order number, P500 ordered special by the original purchaser, not "bought off the lot."
There are 5 speeds for other truck applications so it's possible one was swapped in.
RE headers, whatever info there is out there will not apply to this as this is not the type of truck "truck" headers are designed for. From the engine pic, I'm not sure that truck headers will work but car headers might. You'll just need to see how much room there is to work with and what is available to get a good idea if anything will work. There is also rams horn manifolds and car manifolds might work.
RE the horsepower, that's probably about right. A truck engine isn't a performance engine, for one, but also the Y was significantly detuned by '64. It's probably the worst 292 there is, in terms of power.
NP= "New Process" 5 speed shifter lever **** NP 5 speed transmission casting number
Originally Posted by P350
Hey thanks for the reply! I will get thoes pictures posted tomorrow certainly. That's exactly the type of info i am looking for. Well the trans is on the floor so im assuming it might be the t-98. Its pretty awesome to get to research this project. Thanks for the information!
I own one of those 5 speed transmissions it was in my parts truck...it now sits on a piano dolly with me deciding if I want to put it into my tool truck when I do a clutch....the tool truck presently has the 4 speed Borg Warner T98...Your 5 speed is going to be a NP which stands for "New Process" that is the companies name...I have no other information other than parts are not really available for that transmission..Some were non syncro in ALL gears if I remember correctly requiring double clutching...since this was probably added by someone along the way its not likely to be a completely non syncro transmission....1st gear wont have any syncros though......my info is a little fuzzy now I was researching it almost 2years ago now when I broke down the 1955 C 600 COE it was in...that parts truck is pieces now...but is being transformed into a resto mod using a 2002 E550 with 7.3 powerstroke diesel....
Last edited by mytoolman; Oct 17, 2019 at 12:56 AM.
Reason: to add pics
@mytoolman Thanks for the pictures. Did NP also make this transmission with 4th in the foreward position and 5 th to the rear? In our two corresponding pictures of the shift *** the pattern on 4th and 5th (Overdrive in your pic) are flip flopped. Also if mine is a new process 5 speed as stated and no parts are available can i still get a new clutch for it or is that the problem you are running across? My clutch seems soft. Haha guess im gonna have to brush up on my double clutching ability! Currently im rebuilding the heads as i have 4 stuck valves and the matching pushrods were bent. Good thing tho is that i pulled the heads and found that the cylinders were bored 40 over! Im hoping Its got a mild cam. The heads look like they have been machined as well. It seems that it went to the shop then all the old parts were thrown back on for whatever reason. One of the cylinders looks like it hasnt even been fired. Checked spark and sure enough there was none to that cylinder. I got lucky with this one i think...
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