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Old Oct 5, 2019 | 01:44 PM
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I did an oops

See the pic, but long story short I hit the corner of the rocker box with a grinder and put I small nick in it. My plan is just a little black RTV and hopefully the along with the new valve cover gasket should seal it. Also it will be located on the drivers front towards the bottom.

 
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Old Oct 5, 2019 | 01:51 PM
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Unless you want to take it apart and get it welded, that's your option. Ideally, I would use Ford's silicone for diesels, but if it doesn't work it's just the cover needed to be removed.
 
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Old Oct 5, 2019 | 03:25 PM
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Shouldn't be a problem. I've had good luck with Permatex Ultra Black...it is their most oil resistant sealant, used it for the HPOP cover.
 
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Old Oct 5, 2019 | 05:02 PM
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I have had good luck repairing similar with 3M Scotchweld DP420 or JB weld. I scuff the damaged area,clean with Brakleen, apply the epoxy, allow to fully cure, then file & sand to original shape after curing. Good luck, Russ
 
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Old Oct 5, 2019 | 05:32 PM
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Why did you have a grinder in there?
 
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Old Oct 5, 2019 | 05:42 PM
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Well it was on the other side originally, and I was having difficulty removing the passenger side head. So I cut the head bolt off. Hence the oops.
 
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Old Oct 6, 2019 | 09:32 AM
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I would never use a grinder anywhere under the hood, especially not with the valve covers off...
motorcraft grey sealant...
 
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Old Oct 6, 2019 | 10:00 AM
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If I remember correctly the Ford sealant is made by Permatex, might even be the same as Ultra Grey which is lower viscosity than Ultra Black for tighter clearances...both OEM specified.
 
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Old Oct 6, 2019 | 12:00 PM
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No, not the same. When I researched it it uses a different silicone formulation specifically designed for HPOP diesels that won’t leach silicon into the oil and potential foaming. It’s a Navistar/Ford item only, and a high price for that property. Grey, is not grey.

Now how much of an issue will a small amount of standard RTV cause ..... unknown.
 
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Old Oct 6, 2019 | 01:27 PM
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I am going to use a little dab of ford grey, I'm going to the dealer tomorrow anyways to pick up a couple of little bits that have come in.
 
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JB weld industrial epoxy. Let it sit over night! Use a file to dress it down. I watched someone use it on a block that burned between cylinders, due to a fixed timing distributor. The block held up for the rest of the race season. Approximately 8 weekends of racing.
 
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Both of you guys are right, epoxies with good cleaning will work well. I'd use the 3M DP420.
 
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Old Oct 6, 2019 | 06:17 PM
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Epoxy to fill the void.
 
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Old Oct 7, 2019 | 08:52 AM
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Originally Posted by TooManyToys.
No, not the same. When I researched it it uses a different silicone formulation specifically designed for HPOP diesels that won’t leach silicon into the oil and potential foaming. It’s a Navistar/Ford item only, and a high price for that property. Grey, is not grey.

Now how much of an issue will a small amount of standard RTV cause ..... unknown.
Very interesting. I also realized I got the viscosity for Ultra Grey backwards...it is more viscous not less. I know cure times are important, seen a lot of people get impatient and not allow for the instruction specified cure time.
 
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In some thread here when we talked about RTV’s I think I posted the different types in a chart.

i was going to use the Permatex versions due to the costs until I remembered the detail about the silicone from my 7.3 days.

This was after I used the anaerobic sealant often recommended for the lower gasket seals as a skin coat. That was a bad move when I decided to reopen the bottom end and discovered it doesn’t cure in the application.
 
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