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Old Sep 13, 2019 | 09:27 AM
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Bleeding break inconsistentcy

Just put new front calipers on my 2002 f350 4x4. I was bleeding and my wife was pushing the petal. All looked good on my side as far as no more air coming out of the lines but she said on the diver side the petal didn’t move much when I vented the fluid but on the passenger side the petal went to the floor.

Does anyone know what’s going on here? I would assume there is air in the passenger side but none is coming out with the fluid.

i will add the engine wasn’t running because she couldn’t hear me telling her what to do if it was on.
 
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Old Sep 13, 2019 | 07:08 PM
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The engine does not have to be running to bleed the brakes.

Are the brakes functioning properly? Does the pedal grab nice and high or does it grab low?

When you replaced all of the calipers, did you let all the brake fluid run out of the master cylinder? Does the truck have ABS?

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Old Sep 13, 2019 | 08:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Djosbun
The engine does not have to be running to bleed the brakes.

Are the brakes functioning properly? Does the pedal grab nice and high or does it grab low?

When you replaced all of the calipers, did you let all the brake fluid run out of the master cylinder? Does the truck have ABS?

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I only replaced the front calipers, it does have ABS. I messed with it again and it seems to be better, I haven’t done a test drive yet but probably will tomorrow, now if the engine is running the pedal won’t really go past the last 1/4, engine off it meets resistance very quickly. Hopefully it’s fixed.

the master cylinder got low but I don’t think it drained empty, but I couldn’t really see in there. After attaching the calipers and filling the master cylinder I let it just flow until it was a good stream coming out of the vents.
 
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Old Sep 14, 2019 | 10:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Sgtusmc98
but she said on the driver side the pedal didn’t move much when I vented the fluid but on the passenger side the petal went to the floor.
The pedal goes to the floor when you open the bleeder screw because there is no way for the system to pressurize. So if no fluid is coming out of the bleeder screw then you might have a clog in that brake line.
 
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Old Sep 14, 2019 | 10:50 AM
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The pedal goes to the floor when you open the bleeder screw because there is no way for the system to pressurize. So if no fluid is coming out of the bleeder screw then you might have a clog in that brake line.
Fluid was coming out, I think it’s fixed, I think there was a big pocket of air farther up the line that made it appear to be fixed.

thanks!
 
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Old Sep 15, 2019 | 08:20 PM
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Glad you got it. You 1 truck 0.
Always tap the caliper with a hammer to dislodge air pockets.
Verify the bleeders are pointed upwards, (as they are directional).

The flexible brake lines should be replaced every 10ish years or when the mileage is up there or when they don't visually inspect well.

They can internally collapse and act as a one-way valve(on caliper piston retraction), Sounds like this was not your problem.

Proper bleeding technique is to start with the caliper farthest from the master. Working towards the closest.
Even though you only replaced the fronts.
The whole system should be flushed every few years or 60-80-100K miles depending on your level of retentiveness.
 
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