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Okay, bit of a conundrum... The project '56 I recently purchased has a '73 302 in it. That 302 came out of a Torino that had power steering. The previous owner left the power steering pump on and just routed the power steering fluid through a small recirculating loop/cooler and then back to the pump. I think that is pretty strange and I don't want power steering (or a useless pump sucking up the gobs of horsepower I have, just kidding on that). Anyway, the problem is the power steering pump acts as a tensioner for the fan and water pump. The alternator just runs off the crank pulley. The pulleys don't line up for me to just get a different sized belt and use the alternator as the tensioner for the fan and water pump. I don't really want to convert to a serpentine setup and I know a lot of the earlier small block Fords did not have A/C or P/S. Any ideas on what I need to do here to get rid of the useless P/S pump and still be able to turn the fan and water pump? There has to be a pulley system out there for this purpose without spending a bunch of money. This truck is going to be a driver and not a show truck.
I'm not familiar with what a 302 used for belts,etc but I would go to car shows and salvage yards,etc and look at small block Fords in cars and trucks. No doubt you will find something that will work for you. I would imagine a 65 Mustang with a 289 and no PS would work, or maybe a 63 Fairlane with a 260 and no PS. Good luck. Of course all those older cars will be gone from the salvage yards!
What you're looking for will be a tall order to find, these days. Most all of your donor cars will be long gone from the scrap yards anymore. The early 289 pulleys that Greg mentioned won't work for you. Ford made a change in 69/70 to a different water pump and pulley style, (depth and 4 bolts on the crank pulley vs 3 on the earlier engines). You'll also now be looking for the rare car from the 70's that had a 302 without power steering, and you'll need everything from the front of that engine, all pulleys and accessory brackets to match. Good luck with that. Ford went crazy back then with seemingly different bracket and pulley setups for every application, and sometimes more than one, and they're all unique. You might check with some of the Mustang parts sellers. Someone may be reproducing them. I know much of the 289 stuff is available, so beware and know they won't work for you. Your best bet will be to search the aftermarket for a pulley and bracket dressup kit that (hopefully) won't break the bank.
Leaving the pump on and running it dry with no fluid or hoses is not a good plan. As soon as the bearing dries out, it will seize, snap the belt, and allow the engine to overheat.
What you need to be looking for is a twin sheave water pump pulley for a 302 from that early 70's era. This one piece is all you need to change. They can be found on a number of early 70's Ford applications. Trucks for sure and I think the one in this pic is a Mustang. Once you remove the steering pump, one sheave on the water pump and one on the crank will align with your alternator and the other sheave on each pulley will go unused. When I get out in the shop tonight, I'll post a pic of the one on my setup along with the number you need to be looking for.
Leaving the pump on and running it dry with no fluid or hoses is not a good plan. As soon as the bearing dries out, it will seize, snap the belt, and allow the engine to overheat.
What you need to be looking for is a twin sheave water pump pulley for a 302 from that early 70's era. This one piece is all you need to change. They can be found on a number of early 70's Ford applications. Trucks for sure and I think the one in this pic is a Mustang. Once you remove the steering pump, one sheave on the water pump and one on the crank will align with your alternator and the other sheave on each pulley will go unused. When I get out in the shop tonight, I'll post a pic of the one on my setup along with the number you need to be looking for.
Wow, thanks Blue, that is exactly what I was looking for. I knew there had to be an easier way to do this.
IIRC the alternator runs on inner crank sheave of the crank pulley so you need a deep single sheave water pump pully such as these guys (see below) or a double sheave pulley.
IIRC the alternator runs on inner crank sheave of the crank pulley so you need a deep single sheave water pump pully such as these guys (see below) or a double sheave pulley.
Well, the plot thickens... here are a couple of pictures. It appears I will need to find a 2 sheave water pump pulley because the water pump is currently running off of the rear crank pulley with the useless P/S pump acting as a tensioner. The single deep pulley for the water pump will not work. The pulley currently on there measures right at 3 inches from front to back and I need a v pulley at about 1.75 inches to catch the alternator and crank pulley. There is no easy way to move the alternator back to match. Pardon the messy motor, it will be cleaned up! Just starting this project (it does run well).
Leaving the pump on and running it dry with no fluid or hoses is not a good plan. As soon as the bearing dries out, it will seize, snap the belt, and allow the engine to overheat.
What you need to be looking for is a double sheave water pump pulley for a 302 from that early 70's era. This one piece is all you need to change. They can be found on a number of early 70's Ford applications.
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