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Old Aug 20, 2019 | 08:24 AM
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Fuel Pumps

About 4 years ago the fuel pumps in my F150 (5.4L) and Excursion (6.8L) failed about 2 months apart. Both were replaced with new Motorcraft pumps.

As of today, the fuel pump in the Ex has failed again.

Is anyone else seeing this kind of failure rate?
 
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Old Aug 20, 2019 | 01:13 PM
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They tend to go around 100K miles or so. Nothing unusual.

Replace with Motorcraft or Denso if you want them to last
 
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Old Aug 20, 2019 | 02:39 PM
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Yeah. Picked up a Motorcraft. $365 with tax. That should be enough for a 12V pump....

There's 156,000 on the Ex so there's about 50,000 miles on this pump. Never had one fail on so few miles...
 
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Old Aug 20, 2019 | 11:28 PM
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Just changed mine (still working) after 134,000 miles. Mostly out of paranoia. Didn't even have to drop the tank !


Removing original fuel pump 2003 Excursion. 134,000 mi
 
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Old Aug 21, 2019 | 09:05 AM
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Hmmm.....

Not sure that I'd go through the floor to do this.

On the other hand, if the tank was near full (it's about 1/3) there would be close to 350# of fuel in the tank, plus the tank weight to deal with. In that case your solution looks a lot more manageable....


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Old Aug 21, 2019 | 11:38 AM
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CalEx4x4, was considering doing the same...creating an access hole. I'm at 125K on original pump. Did you find the location/dimensions online somewhere, or willing to post/share? Thanks in advance, Dave
 
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Old Aug 21, 2019 | 04:28 PM
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Fuel pumps need to be cool. Running fuel levels low tend to cause longevity issues.

I have 250,000 miles on original pump. I never let fuel level fall below 1/4 tank.

Running out of fuel just once can take its toll on the fuel pump.

In addition a failing low voltage alternator and or battery can overheat pump due to low voltage. So check vehicle voltage.
 
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Old Aug 22, 2019 | 02:13 PM
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Originally Posted by CalEx4x4
Just changed mine (still working) after 134,000 miles. Mostly out of paranoia. Didn't even have to drop the tank !


Removing original fuel pump 2003 Excursion. 134,000 mi
It took two of us about 3 hours to swap the pump yesterday. That included an extra trip to O'Reilly's for a filler hose as the original one tore as we lowered the tank.

I don't believe I've ever put more than 40 gallons in her during a fill up, so there's always 4 or more gallons in the tank. That's a 10% reserve, but also means that if the tank is 20" tall there's only 2" of fuel left in the tank. Even with splashing that may not be enough to keep the pump cool enough for long term health.
 
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Old Aug 22, 2019 | 04:26 PM
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Rock 2610d is right- keep your fuel tanks full ! I always top up before I get to half tank. It would have been easier to unlatch my fuel pump from the bottom of the tank if I didn't keep it topped up!

So PearlWillys- I did measure about 21 inches forward from the underside of the lowest part of the body just below the barn doors. Then I drilled the hole that you see and stuck an inspection camera in the hole to verify my position over the fuel pump.
It's much easier just to look at the ribs in the photos to see where to cut.
I had to stop when I hit the brace at the top of the cut. I was hoping to go 8 inches square and only got 8' in width and 6" top to bottom. I could feel my jigsaw slow when it reached the thicker metal.
If I did it over again, I would cut 2 inches lower (towards the barn doors) to make up the difference and maybe go an inch wider on each side for more working room. There were no other reinforcements in the way.

Drilled hole is right over the center of the fuel pump. Note how it lines up with ribs to the left and right where they "bridge"

Note the cut lines in relation to the floor channels or ribs.
 
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Old Aug 22, 2019 | 04:52 PM
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Gosh, I think it takes more time to cut that hole than to just drop the tank. Rent a transmission if you don't have one.
 
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Old Aug 29, 2019 | 11:39 PM
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Glad not to be a "sheep" here, just like the brotherhood of the travelling zerk. Sealed for life does not mean there isn't a work around. Dropping the gas tank doesn't mean there isn't a work around.
Next fuel pump will take 20 minutes with the hatch already in place.


Won't take hours to re-cut a hatch that is already in place.
 
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Old Aug 30, 2019 | 09:15 AM
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CalEx did your fuel lines have safety clips on them? Mine did not, and I believe it was the original pump. Also are you going to post pictures of your completed hatch?
 
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Old Aug 30, 2019 | 06:49 PM
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I try to fill up at around a half tank because putting 35+ gallons is like $100 bucks. I mean, damn...
 
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