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Old Aug 16, 2019 | 06:25 PM
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yea. hammer and vice.
on the truck i usually use a very large screwdriver, pry bar, or roller head bar.
 
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Old Aug 16, 2019 | 08:56 PM
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OP - there are plenty of IDIs with C6s from the factory sitting in yards across the country --- you might want to check with the yards as you may be able to get all the parts needed for cheap..................
 
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Old Aug 16, 2019 | 10:00 PM
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Used an open end 11/16 on bar side and shaft of another 11/16 on male end and c clamped together close to the grommet as possible. Then slipped in vice grips all way to wire cutter and leveraged of bar and it fell out. (Have a lot of random 11/16 wrenches for some reason)

anywhere recommendation to source these factory grommets?

also, idi’s are rare in the pick your parts yards. Much less with 4wd c6’s. Although, after straightening out this linkage and holding it against a 2wd c6, it looks to be the same!-)

Quoted 300$ for driveshafts from a buy only yard. The only one in California that had them. Per their computer network.

Someone selling a 7.3/c6 extended cab chassis, with the cab sitting where the bed area used to be, no drivetrain but clean non opt diesel title for 1500. Saw the crossmember and asked how much. No reply....
... looks like holes are already drilled for driver’s side of trans crossmember. Just about 8 inches ahead of current location. Passenger side is blank. Will be fun attaching driver’s side with barely any room between frame and cab.
 
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Old Aug 17, 2019 | 08:35 AM
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I've had some enginerds screw us on bolting room before. Don't be afraid to use a welder and turn a bolt into a stud. Just leave enough sticking out that you can double-nut it and use an impact to shear your weld off if you need to!
 
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Old Aug 17, 2019 | 03:25 PM
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Saved the fun part for last.....electronics!



The c6 has 4 wires that will have to cut off connector and modify some shady tree connection to the current
e4od mega wire connector feed from truck harness.

what wires go where?-). Lol
 
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Old Aug 17, 2019 | 03:40 PM
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there are only 4 wires for the C6. two for reverse lights, and two for neutral safety switch.
the two red with blue stripe are neutral safety switch. the other two are for reverse lights.
 
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Old Aug 17, 2019 | 03:59 PM
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Okiedokie!-).

and the rest of the truck e4od wires can be left alone?
yaknow what wires are neutral safety switch on the truck e4od harness?
Does it matter which nss wire from c6 goes to the nss wires from truck harness?
 
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Old Aug 17, 2019 | 04:29 PM
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that i can not help you with, i never had one of those silly transmissions. either 5 speed or C-6.
but i would assume the NSS wires for the E4OD are the same, red with blue stripe.
the NSS wires don't make any difference what goes on what side because it is just a switch to close the circuit when in either park or neutral.
reverse wires will have one with 12 volts, and when you put the truck in reverse it closes that side of the switch and sends power to the reverse lights.
so what i would do is go key to run, and probe the other wires with a test light for 12 volts. then once you find the hot wire run a jumper to the other wires until the reverse lights come on. should be pink/orange and i think black/pink.
 
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Old Aug 17, 2019 | 07:01 PM
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So the truck harness has the 4 wire connector too. Perfect.
the other wires going to the shift linkage at trans is for something specific to the e4od.
hoping truck will run okiedokie!-) without this hooked up.
 
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Old Aug 18, 2019 | 09:58 AM
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OP -- "computas" are different as are the harnesses.................here's a good source to start to get your head around the challenge (especially this first link -- section on "truck pin outs" and the EEC-IV)

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PS -- I'd personally try to find reasonably priced IDI/C6 factory stuff in the boneyard somewhere --- use the original Ford work rather than try kludging it myself............I've kludged many things (including using "Painless" harnesses) and find using the factory stuff where possible just makes more sense
 
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Old Aug 18, 2019 | 12:20 PM
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i would not worry too much about the dumputer, since all it does is run the E4OD that is being removed.
the IDI and C-6 will work just fine with the E4OD computer abandoned in the truck.
the only thing i can see being effected and maybe not working properly is the cruise control if the truck even has it.
 
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Old Aug 18, 2019 | 03:10 PM
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Previous owner's description sounds like a broken intermediate shaft. Very easy to tear down and replace.
 
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Old Aug 18, 2019 | 04:04 PM
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So the PO of c6 is unresponsive so far as to find out what computer is/was in his truck. He swapped in a zf5.
and yes I love and own em too. This truck is being built as a “go to” truck. Driver’s not able to drive manual, simple and low cost repairs/maintenance, and functionality. It’s rather beat up but it will pull 10K trailer up/down the mountain (rather slowly)
and serve as the ”go fer’” king.

Will eventually pull the e4od electronics from truck and put on the market with the trans.

Very interested in the broken intermidate shaft diagnosis... is this inside the trans? Simple enough to repair by a shady tree mechanic? Parts numbers and availability? It only moved when in neutral. Be great to have this trans simply repaired and available for another. It was just over the 12K mile warranty per PO.
 
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Old Aug 18, 2019 | 04:49 PM
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C-6 does not use a computer. it if a full mechanical trans, just like the engine.
 
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Old Aug 18, 2019 | 06:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Edward Michael
Very interested in the broken intermidate shaft diagnosis... is this inside the trans? Simple enough to repair by a shady tree mechanic? Parts numbers and availability? It only moved when in neutral. Be great to have this trans simply repaired and available for another. It was just over the 12K mile warranty per PO.
Yes, pretty simple once you get familiar with the trans. I'm no professional myself, but have been into about 4 E4ODs,including my F350 and just pulled the one in my Lightning down to replace the intermediate clutch and sprag. It's actually a good time!

The early intermediate or center shafts were prone to breakage and when they go,you're done,no output. I've read this, never experienced it myself. I can say that the description sounds like a hard part failure of some sort that would be easy to diagnose and fix.
 
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