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1995 E150 - Code 452 “Open speed sensor circuit” diagnosis help (PSOM?)

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Old Sep 2, 2019 | 12:26 PM
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Yes speed control was unplugged. I tested at the speed control connector, was that not right?
That was the right way to do it.
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So I need to remove pin 3 from the PCM plug and then reconnect PCM and do same test at the speed control connector again?
Not for DS3.
Just unplug the PCM and the PSOM connector.
The measure the resistance from pin #3 to pin #6, #37 and #40.
Your DVOM on the ohm scale should measure greater than 10,000 ohms (an open).
In other word you are checking to make sure these wire are not shorted together.
No need to remove pin #3 at this point.
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Is there a way to do the DS tests without a breakout box? Should I try and pick up a breakout box?
As long as you can get to the PCM pins with the PCM disconnected you will not need one. But they do make life much easier.

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Old Sep 2, 2019 | 02:21 PM
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Originally Posted by subford
That was the right way to do it.

Not for DS3.
Just unplug the PCM and the PSOM connector.
The measure the resistance from pin #3 to pin #6, #37 and #40.
Your DVOM on the ohm scale should measure greater than 10,000 ohms (an open).
In other word you are checking to make sure these wire are not shorted together.
No need to remove pin #3 at this point.

As long as you can get to the PCM pins with the PCM disconnected you will not need one. But they do make life much easier.



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Ok thanks so much! About try this now. Does the speed control servo need to stay unplugged for this test as well?
 
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Old Sep 2, 2019 | 04:00 PM
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I would leave it unplugged.
These test are also for trucks that do not have a speed control servo and that would be unplugged.
 
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Am I testing this at the PCM connector or the PCM itself? Not getting any resistance reading at all between 3 and 6 at both the connector and PCM. No reading at connector for 37 and 40. 300 ohms at the PCM between 37 and 40
 
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Old Sep 2, 2019 | 04:02 PM
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At the PCM connector.
Not getting any resistance reading is good. That is what you want.
 
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We still need to do DS2 above in the list.
 
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Old Sep 2, 2019 | 04:07 PM
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By the way a test pin number on the Breakout box is the same number in the PCM connector.
Just in case you did not know.
 
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Old Sep 2, 2019 | 04:13 PM
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Originally Posted by subford
At the PCM connector.
Not getting any resistance reading is good. That is what you want.
Shouldn't the meter respond to the connection and show 0? Mine is just displaying a 1 in the left side when testing.
 
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Old Sep 2, 2019 | 04:41 PM
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Ok so it appears the open circuit is between the PSOM (+) and pin 3.
 
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Old Sep 2, 2019 | 05:18 PM
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Are you saying you have found the problem?
 
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Shouldn't the meter respond to the connection and show 0? Mine is just displaying a 1 in the left side when testing.
I do not know what meter you are using so I can not say with out its make and model number.
 
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Old Sep 2, 2019 | 05:32 PM
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Originally Posted by subford
Are you saying you have found the problem?
I'm not 100% certain. For DS2, ("Measure resistance between Test Pin 3 at the breakout box and PSOM(+) circuit at the PSOM vehicle harness connector.") do I just test from pin 3 on PCM connector to PIN 1 (battery) on PSOM connector?
 
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Old Sep 2, 2019 | 05:59 PM
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PCM Plug pin #3 and the PSOM connector pin #7.

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Old Sep 2, 2019 | 06:17 PM
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Originally Posted by subford
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PCM Plug pin #3 and the PSOM connector pin #7.
Note pin #2 is Black/White and not PK/O.
Ok never mind then. DS2 test checks out.
 
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