So what are you guys running for starters and what are your thoughts about them?

I just looked up 6.4s and 6.7s and there is a serious price difference between the two. Any ideas about that? In theory the newer one would be more reliable as they've been able to build off of previous versions.

6.4 $440.00
https://parts.autonationfordwhitebea...NaLTExMDAyLUFB

6.7 $326.12
https://parts.autonationfordwhitebea...LTExMDAyLUE%3D


And I thought the Mean Green starter was expensive at $400. Sheesh

 

Don't want to come off with a crass commercial announcement, but what the H is wrong with the Moto Starter for a hundred bucks and change?

2 yr warranty plus you can run a bigger AWG wire down to it and it will thank you many times over..............................

 

Never heard of the Moto Starter. Got a link?

 

DB electrical is the way to go.
I got a 6.4 starter brand new for less than $100, been on there about a year, no issues whatsoever.

 

I have this one. Starts within a sec or less.

https://cncfab.us/i-30497876-mahle-0...letr-ms52.html

 

I bought a factory 6.7l starter with18,000 miles on it from a salvage yard for $75 .

 

Don't like doing commercial-like announcements, but here is one source for the more than adequate Ford / Motorcraft factory starter with 2-yr Ford warranty............upgrade the grounds in the engine bay, increase the AWG size on the wire running down to the starter and it will serve you for many many years:

https://pensacoladiesel.com/product/...t-oem-starter/

 

Similar to what several of us did when this subject had been active before, salvaged but made sure if was factory with low mines, not a rebuilt, often under $75.

An artistic (some may not agree) take on the situation, but spinning a 6.0 faster does require more energy. The stock 2/0 cable from the last battery to the starter will handle it, but as '90 has stated, increasing one size as I'll show in the future will help for the few seconds of starting. The decision becomes, is a few seconds worth the cost. And the layover of a battery to battery additional current handling cable from the driver's side becomes more important, as does the ground on the driver's side.

 

Jack bottom line do you think this upgrade is worth it? I know geography may play a part in your decision but it is worth your input.

 

Preface - I’m a function before form guy.

To me, it’s really a personal preference. If your motor aware, it sounds better reducing fire off time. If the owner, it will be a sense of accomplishment with every start, where a lot of not so great but costly modifications under the hood only has the feel when the hood is opened. It can be done relatively inexpensively if you take the time to hunt in the salvage market, leaving you with a backup on the shelf, which I have a lot of. The HPOP of course fills the system faster, and maybe gets you to run longer if there is a stand tube or dummy plug leak.

On the downside, if you look at the voltmeter during my different engagement events, the higher amp requirement and surge brings down the voltage drop, and I could get down into the 10.5v range. It’s not as long in time where Ford has noted FICM damage can occur and I don’t want to scare anyone that the short time would induce FICM failure, but for me that voltage drop is a key point where I get new batteries. So during the winter starting events, I would get batteries changed out sooner.

Thats all battery and cables at that point. Nothing to do with the alternator.

There are hundred of thousands of 6.0s running around with 6.0 starters. They start the truck fine and have good reliability. The same money towards the 6.4 trans pan and filter has a better value in terms of improvement. But it doesn’t have the emotional appeal at every start of a faster spinning starter.

Tough call, but if your comfortable with your hunting ability, a salvage 6.4 or early 6.7 starter for $75 or under makes it easier. But for me, I would only do it if I needed a new starter.

Or when I wanted to prove the rush to getting a 6.4 starter didn’t follow the belief that it used less energy.

 

Well Toys ya did one good thing with that response.
You brought in a good upgrade out of the blue that you thought would would help the overall running of a 6.0. I was considering the tranny filter upgrade on mine.
You convinced me right there. When on another topic an expert brings up something that quick, i think its something to consider.
Thanks.

 

That he does. Me being one with a 2005 F250 with 196,000 miles, bulletproof FICM, 5w-40 oil and good batteries in a ‘warm climate’ hope it is an upgrade. But every time I start it up within a few seconds, a smile, but I will ket you know in a year. Thanks as always Jack !

 

Hey, it even brings a smile to this curmudgeons face.


I almost did "Only the lonely" for the video song. Poor lonely removed starter .....

 

We are driving 12yo trucks, I think we all qualify as ‘curmudgeons’. Thanks for helping us in our golden age, lol

 

Amen.
We are of the age where we listen and learn. Thanks guys.