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Old Aug 9, 2019 | 06:53 PM
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window seal kit

bought these new for the 67. they are the fuzzy type. they don't hold back any water at all. runs right thru. is there any reason why the 71-72 style wouldn't work? they changed over to a rubber strip starting in 71.
surely they will seal better. I realize some water may flow thru at times, but these don't hardly touch the window. normal china junk. thanks
 
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Old Aug 9, 2019 | 07:10 PM
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Unhappy Window seals, sort of

The "seal" isn't really a seal as on today's cars, rather it's an anti-rattle device, primarily, also to help hold the window in place to minimize wind noise. Rubber strips were somebody's idea to create something like wipers that would remove condensation as well as help with the anti-rattle mission. As electric windows and door locks became more popular, more emphasis was put on excluding moisture from the door interior, gradually morphing into a true seal that we see today. Slicks and bumps managed the water that flowed in past the "seals" by directing it out through holes in the bottom of the door. When the holes clogged up with dirt and debris by the end of year one in some cases, the doors started rusting from the inside out. By year three it was common to see bubbling starting and by year 4 or 5, rust holes beginning to form.

The aftermarket felts denude rapidly and the rubber dries and cracks very quickly. They're all crap now.
 
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Old Aug 9, 2019 | 07:59 PM
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didn't think of it that way. makes perfect sense. I keep the drains clear and the windows dont rattle. I noticed after a rain that the driver side floor by the sill was wet. it was coming from the steel door panel at the bottom
didn't have that weather strip around the panel. easy fix all good now. don't know how people with door speakers keep them working! looks like a waterfall in there with a water hose.
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Old Aug 9, 2019 | 08:12 PM
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Western Auto sold a zillion "waterproof speaker enclosures"

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didn't think of it that way. makes perfect sense. I keep the drains clear and the windows dont rattle. I noticed after a rain that the driver side floor by the sill was wet. it was coming from the steel door panel at the bottom
didn't have that weather strip around the panel. easy fix all good now. don't know how people with door speakers keep them working! looks like a waterfall in there with a water hose.
thanks
Which didn't work for long until they cracked and let in and held more water than ever before. But, hey, it took a little jingle out of the pockets of teenagers, which was usually the point of most Western Auto accessory items.
 
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Old Aug 9, 2019 | 10:07 PM
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herd that! I miss the old western auto stores. had one in my hometown.
good times
 
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Old Aug 9, 2019 | 11:23 PM
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Originally Posted by fluff
Bought these new for the 67, they are the fuzzy type. They don't hold back any water at all, runs right thru. Is there any reason why the 71-72 style wouldn't work?

The outers changed over to a rubber strip starting mid-year 1971.
Genuine Ford:

The outers/inners (C7TZ-8121452-A Right Outer/Left Inner // C7TZ-8121453-A Right Inner/Left Outer) are the same 1967/70 F100/750, 1971 F100/750 before serial number K40,001.

The C7TZ inners are also the same 1971 from serial number K40,001 and 1972 F100/750.

1971 F100/750 outers from serial number K40,001 and 1972 F100/750 are different (D1TZ-1021452-A Right Outer // D1TZ-1021453-A Left Outer).

Ford called them belt weatherstrips, repro parts sellers call them anti-rattlers, auto glass shops call them cat whiskers.
 
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Old Aug 10, 2019 | 12:09 AM
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Why couldn’t they be fabricated easily with the right profile rubber strip and a piece of thin aluminum bar? Hmm.

when I redid my door bottoms with the replacement steel ones that can be welded on, I got inside the interior of the door bottoms with some serious roofing tar. Sealed the whole door bottoms (cracks/crevices) from contact with moisture, and the rain pours in there!
Just needed to maintain the drain holes opened up to let the water drain out. Ghetto, but worked.
 
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Old Aug 10, 2019 | 06:40 AM
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I think you're onto something there!

Making our own anti-rattle strips couldn't be any worse than handing the Chinese our cash in return for the crappy ones they're making that are next to worthless. I did the same thing you did to protect my doors. Here's how I like to protect doors and fender insides.
1) clean as thoroughly and completely as possible,
2) Ospho application to convert any remaining rust to primer https://ospho.com/
3) Roofing primer https://www.homedepot.com/p/Henry-17...Q027/202934229
4) Very thin coat of solvent-based unfibered roof coating in a 1 gallon can https://henry.com/retail/asphalt-and-damp-proofing-coatings/henry-101-non-fibered-foundation-coating
5) Clearing the drain holes afterward.

A pleasant additional benefit to this is the sound deadening imparted to the panels by the coating. It doesn't take much to reduce noise considerably.
 
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Old Aug 10, 2019 | 06:47 AM
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Talking Western auto stores were funny

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herd that! I miss the old western auto stores. had one in my hometown.
good times
Car parts. Bicycles. Console TVs and stereos. Car parts counter guys wore open collar shirts, while the TV and Radio salesmen had to wear a tie. At our store, the guys sold both. So they'd be behind the counter selling car parts and then come out, halfway clip on a tie and show a TV with the tie hanging off to the side. Then unclip the tie and go back to selling car parts. Pretty funny to watch.

Another funny Western Auto experience was when my cousin worked there later on. They implemented those god-awful orange shirt and black pants uniforms. Very distinctive, which I guess was the point. I drove up to his store and met him to take him for lunch. Some counter sale was taking longer than it should have, so in the middle of it, he told his coworker, "take over for this guy" and just turned and left in the middle of the sale, no time to change out of his orange shirt and black pants. We go to a pizza joint and while there, a guy saw his uniform, knew it was Western Autos and chewed him out for the crappy western auto fuel pump he'd put on his car that promptly failed... during rush hour traffic in the middle of I-70 during a heavy downpour.

After the guy reamed him good and left, my cousin shook his head and said, "I knew I should have changed out of this stupid orange shirt. Prison guards are required to change out of their uniforms, can't wear them in public because some angry ex-con might see them in it and beat the crap out of them. Western Auto ex-customers are about as bad."
 
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Old Aug 10, 2019 | 07:37 AM
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good story! all his fault the fuel pump was bad LOL
 
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