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Old Aug 4, 2019 | 12:32 PM
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Truck not running.

Took the truck out for a spin today. Pulled up to a stop sign, it quit running. Couldn’t get it started. Had gas in the glass bowl. Starter was turning it over so it is a good battery. Not sure what’s going on.

Had to have my son tow me home.
 
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Old Aug 4, 2019 | 01:50 PM
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Took the truck out for a spin today. Pulled up to a stop sign, it quit running. Couldn’t get it started. Had gas in the glass bowl. Starter was turning it over so it is a good battery. Not sure what’s going on.

Had to have my son tow me home.
Got spark?
 
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Old Aug 4, 2019 | 02:19 PM
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I don't know at this point. I am too mad. I have learned that when I am mad, it is better to take a break than try and work on it and end up doing more harm then good.
 
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Well it’s been about two hours since I got a tow. Went out to the barn, and it started right up. I am wandering if it is something to do with exhaust. On the side of road when engine stalled I noticed the weighted rod inside straight section of the exhaust (right under the carb) was flipped over and kinda in a stuck position. I flipped it over before being towed.notnsure how it could flip over except inadequate exhaust?

Maybe the engine was flooded?
 
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Old Aug 4, 2019 | 04:10 PM
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Well it’s been about two hours since I got a tow. Went out to the barn, and it started right up. I am wandering if it is something to do with exhaust. On the side of road when engine stalled I noticed the weighted rod inside straight section of the exhaust (right under the carb) was flipped over and kinda in a stuck position. I flipped it over before being towed.notnsure how it could flip over except inadequate exhaust?

Maybe the engine was flooded?
The (bi-metallic) spring on the heat riser will cause the weight to move as it expands and contracts - nope, that's not the cause.
Flooding? Possibly. Did you smell or see the presence of gasoline? Could possibly be vapor lock too.
I suspect an overheated or failing ignition system component such as a coil, resistor, or condenser.
Also check for loose wiring connections.
 

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You don't have one of those POS el-cheapo condensers installed in the distributor do ya? That'll do it.
 
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Old Aug 5, 2019 | 06:33 AM
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I did smell gas. It has brand new coil and condenser. Haven't seen a resistor on the truck. On my Tractors the resister is a long spring looking thing with ceramic running through the middle and wire attached to both ends. Just off the top of my head, I think the ignition on the truck runs this way: battery to ignition switch, ignition switch to starter button, starter button to coil, coil to distributor. There is a new solenoid in the lineup too somewhere.

Before truck stalled, I only ran it for maybe 5 minutes. A week ago, I had it running for about 45 minutes, put about 20 miles on it. It was pushing 90 that day. Yesterday was only in the 70s.
 
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Old Aug 5, 2019 | 06:38 AM
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I did smell gas. It has brand new coil and condenser.
That's what I figured. Put the old condenser back in.
 
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Old Aug 5, 2019 | 06:39 AM
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Bought the distributor kit from Macs.

The heat riser was flipped over. That's weird because of the weight being off center. Once it flipped, there was no way for it to flip back on its on. I pushed it. Maybe I played with it before and left it in the wrong position. I'll definitely be keeping an eye on it.
 
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Brand new condenser meaning, a couple months old. Maybe 30 miles on it.
 
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If it happens again, best way to check for spark: pull a plug, turn it over and watch spark plug gap? Or is there an easier way?
 
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Originally Posted by HVFDFIREFIGHTER1618
Brand new condenser meaning, a couple months old. Maybe 30 miles on it.
They often aren't any good right out of the box. I'm not gonna say this is for sure the problem but it wouldn't be a surprise. This is a really common problem. If you have the old condenser that was installed before the issue began reinstall it, if it is an Autolite or Standard Products etc it will likely be better than anything made today imported from you-know-where. There isn't really any benefit to replacing a condenser if it's working correctly, they are better left alone for the most part.

Pull the coil wire from distributor and hold the terminal about 3/8" from a head bolt or good ground. Or, check a spark plug grounded. Look for a strong fat blue spark that snaps in the air. A thin yellowish spark in open air will not be able to fire at all under load, under compression inside the engine.
 
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Originally Posted by HVFDFIREFIGHTER1618

The heat riser was flipped over. That's weird because of the weight being off center. Once it flipped, there was no way for it to flip back on its on. I pushed it. Maybe I played with it before and left it in the wrong position. I'll definitely be keeping an eye on it.
This is absolutely not the issue with the truck.
 
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Old Aug 5, 2019 | 02:15 PM
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Originally Posted by HVFDFIREFIGHTER1618
I did smell gas.
That could be from just trying to restart it. If the carb was wet around the base then I would suspect flooding. Stuck float maybe. How is the carb? Recent rebuild? I'm still leaning towards an electrical issue though.
 
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Yes, recently took carb apart, placed all parts in the ultrasonic cleaner, and used the correct rebuild kit. Even replaced the two tiny little ***** that can be easily lost.
 
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