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Old Aug 3, 2019 | 05:40 PM
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C6 Downshifting issues

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So I am having issues with my 1979 ford f150 downshifting from 3rd to 2nd when I lift my foo off the throttle to apply the brakes. this is a heavy slam into a lower gear at higher rates of speed and does not feel or sound good. Everything I have read online says vacuum modulator for correcting upshift problems but nothing about my issues. Is this still a modulator issue? The previous owner replaced the modulator and I have no idea what it is.
 
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Old Aug 23, 2019 | 10:40 PM
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Anyone? Anything?
 
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Old Aug 23, 2019 | 10:46 PM
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That doesn't sound like the modulator. Usually the modulator affects upshifts, not downshifts.
How does the transmission shift when you're accelerating? Is it normal?
 
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Old Aug 23, 2019 | 11:26 PM
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Have you recently did any carburetor adjustments or carb swap? Or messed with the trans kick down rod?
 
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Old Aug 25, 2019 | 05:23 AM
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I think it shifts just fine. it revs out if I get on it and shifts at a good spot when driving normally. I have not messed with the kick down linkage or anything else. The previous owner had the carb tuned by a shop I think but that's all I know.
 
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Old Sep 5, 2019 | 12:29 AM
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I checked the fluid the other day it looked low. Thought maybe that was why it was doing this. Went and bought fluid and now I can't tell if it high or low. one side of the dipstick looks like its high and the other looks like its where it should be... I don't know what else to do. Does anyone know anything to help?
 
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I checked the trans fluid and it was looking low. Now it was on more level ground and it looks high. I can not tell if the trans is over full. Is it possible this issue could be caused by being over filled? and or using the wrong fluid? I have heard you need to use type F in the c6's. my next step I'm thinking of trying is dropping the pan and replacing the filter since the pan is leaking anyway. I have not been able to find anyone that is having the same issues online so im running out of ideas. any help is greatly appreciated!
 
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Originally Posted by Froader527
I checked the trans fluid and it was looking low. Now it was on more level ground and it looks high. I can not tell if the trans is over full.

Is it possible this issue could be caused by being over filled? and or using the wrong fluid?

I have heard you need to use Type F in the C6's.
C6: 1966/76: Type F A/T // 1977/90's: Mercon aka Dexron II

Including the torque converter, the C6 takes (edit) 13 quarts of ATF

1979 F150, what size is the engine? If it's a 300 I-6 or 302, it could also have a C4.
 
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Old Sep 5, 2019 | 02:49 PM
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Dunno bout that 17 quarts ND, my 4x4 deep pan per the 76' Ford shop manual is 13 3/4 quarts, most other C6 applications listed in the same book are around 12 quarts if I remember correctly...Only reason its fresh in my mind, I just filled mine over the weekend for its first rebuilt journey..
 
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Old Sep 5, 2019 | 03:08 PM
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Including the torque converter
 
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Old Sep 5, 2019 | 03:09 PM
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Dunno bout that 17 quarts ND, my 4x4 deep pan per the 76' Ford shop manual is 13 3/4 quarts, most other C6 applications listed in the same book are around 12 quarts if I remember correctly...Only reason its fresh in my mind, I just filled mine over the weekend for its first rebuilt journey..
It is 13 quarts, I mixed up the number of trans pan bolts (17) with the quarts of ATF .. DUMB!

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Old Sep 5, 2019 | 05:02 PM
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just curious where your vacuum line that goes down to the modulator is connected?
 
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Old Sep 5, 2019 | 05:21 PM
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OP, is you transmission hooked up to manifold vacuum or is it, for whatever reason, hooked up to the ported vacuum off your carb? I read on a forum (this one or FSB) that a user had done that as an experiment and experienced what you are.
 
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Its a 351m
 
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Old Sep 5, 2019 | 10:50 PM
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So it looks like the trans vacuum line is running to a t fitting that splits to the heated vacuum thingy (not sure what that is. I am new to this carb thing.) and then it also goes to the fitting that goes in to intake cover. It has a purple modulator and the line is connected to it. it looks like it is not hooked to the carb at all. I am pretty confident its the c6 due it having the notched square pan and a solid bell housing. Im curious if the previous owner replaced the modulator and put the wrong trans fluid in it? Its always fun trying to un-***** someones mess.
 
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