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Old Jul 31, 2019 | 01:06 AM
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F250 Payload

We're looking at the F250 & F350 for towing a travel trailer for now & maybe a 5th wheel in the future. According to the 2018 SuperDuty brochure, the F250, Crew Cab, 6.7 PS, 4X4, 159.8" WB, 10k GVWR, the Payload capacity is 3470#. I'm presuming the 2019 is the same, I don't have a 2019 brochure. I thought most F250 or 3/4 ton trucks Payloads were closer to 2500#. If this is true the F250 would work for us, I know the F350 payload is higher, but they are harder to find in the crew cab short box configuration. Just wanting to make sure I'm not missing something.
 
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Old Jul 31, 2019 | 01:40 AM
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That would be for a stripped down version, like an 2wd XL. What trim level are you considering?
 
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Old Jul 31, 2019 | 02:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Eric Swartz
We're looking at the F250 & F350 for towing a travel trailer for now & maybe a 5th wheel in the future. According to the 2018 SuperDuty brochure, the F250, Crew Cab, 6.7 PS, 4X4, 159.8" WB, 10k GVWR, the Payload capacity is 3470#. I'm presuming the 2019 is the same, I don't have a 2019 brochure. I thought most F250 or 3/4 ton trucks Payloads were closer to 2500#. If this is true the F250 would work for us, I know the F350 payload is higher, but they are harder to find in the crew cab short box configuration. Just wanting to make sure I'm not missing something.
My F250 gasser is only 3206lbs. It's a ccsb 4x4 with the XLT premium package.
 
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Old Jul 31, 2019 | 05:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Eric Swartz
We're looking at the F250 & F350 for towing a travel trailer for now & maybe a 5th wheel in the future. According to the 2018 SuperDuty brochure, the F250, Crew Cab, 6.7 PS, 4X4, 159.8" WB, 10k GVWR, the Payload capacity is 3470#. I'm presuming the 2019 is the same, I don't have a 2019 brochure. I thought most F250 or 3/4 ton trucks Payloads were closer to 2500#. If this is true the F250 would work for us, I know the F350 payload is higher, but they are harder to find in the crew cab short box configuration. Just wanting to make sure I'm not missing something.
The brochure does not state payloads for the 6.7 PS. Those numbers are for the 6.2 gas.

Payload for an F250 6.7 PS is in the low 2000s.
 
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Old Jul 31, 2019 | 05:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Eric Swartz
F250, Crew Cab, 6.7 PS, 4X4, 159.8" WB, 10k GVWR, the Payload capacity is 3470#.
The max payload for that truck would be 2670#. The diesel is about a 800# hit on payload. As others have mentioned, that would be a XL with no options. See this guide starting on page 18. Again, these values are XL, no options.
 
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Old Jul 31, 2019 | 06:44 AM
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for payload

gas - f250

diesel - f350

The diesel engine eats up payload quickly before you even start adding options - leather, sunroof, the higher end packages lariats, Platinum, KR subtract from the 10000 GVWR fairly fast

if you're thinking about a bigger camper - better get the right truck first

my '17 CCSB 4x4 gasser payload is 3248# STX/FX4
 
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Old Jul 31, 2019 | 06:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Eric Swartz
We're looking at the F250 & F350 for towing a travel trailer for now & maybe a 5th wheel in the future. According to the 2018 SuperDuty brochure, the F250, Crew Cab, 6.7 PS, 4X4, 159.8" WB, 10k GVWR, the Payload capacity is 3470#. I'm presuming the 2019 is the same, I don't have a 2019 brochure. I thought most F250 or 3/4 ton trucks Payloads were closer to 2500#. If this is true the F250 would work for us, I know the F350 payload is higher, but they are harder to find in the crew cab short box configuration. Just wanting to make sure I'm not missing something.
Eric,

The brochure’s 3470 lbs. “maximum payload” spec is for that truck with a 6.2 gas engine, base trim level (XL), and no unnecessary options. With the optional diesel, higher trim, and other options, figure on something in the ~2400 lbs. range (and maybe less). Note that the payload spec includes the weights of the the driver, passengers, coolers and tools, and not just cargo.

For towing a fifth wheel, you may want to consider an F350 crewcab with a long bed, as the CCLB configuration is fitted with a 48 gallon fuel tank instead of the 34.

HTH,
Jim / crewzer
 
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Old Jul 31, 2019 | 07:04 AM
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Originally Posted by mikejohnham
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gas - f250

diesel - f350

The diesel engine eats up payload quickly before you even start adding options - leather, sunroof, the higher end packages lariats, Platinum, KR subtract from the 10000 GVWR fairly fast

if you're thinking about a bigger camper - better get the right truck first

my '17 CCSB 4x4 gasser payload is 3248# STX/FX4
The payload on your gas F-250 is almost the same as my diesel F-350. I had an F-250 (in my signature) and the payload was about #2100. Gained a little over 1000# going to the 350.
 
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Old Jul 31, 2019 | 07:13 AM
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When looking at the trucks check the tire and loading information sticker on the door sill before you test drive. It will tell you the payload of that particular truck. I have a 2019 King Ranch F-250 6.7. My payload is 2,137 per the sticker. That fits my needs for my 36 foot travel trailer, but if I moved to a 5th wheel, it will not have enough payload to tow many fifth wheels. My disclaimer is it is not recommended to go over payload. A travel trailer tongue weight is usually between 10 to 15% of the total weight of the trailer. For 5th wheels the king pin weight is typically about 20% of the total weight of the trailer.
 
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Old Jul 31, 2019 | 07:15 AM
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My loaded out 6.7 ccsb 4x4 Platinum is right at 2100.


If you plan to 5th wheel get the 350.


Is ownership/usage commercial or private?
 
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Old Jul 31, 2019 | 07:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Blue6.2
My F250 gasser is only 3206lbs. It's a ccsb 4x4 with the XLT premium package.
As close a comparison as one might get: CCSB, 4x4 with XLT Premium Package. Payload 2355

That's an 851# loss for going Diesel. However Blue6.2 may have the FX4 package which I do not, but I did add Skid Plates (which is the weight addition of the FX4 package). I also have the heavy Tow package with adds the 3 inch receiver and the M275 axle, which are suspect are heavier than the 2.5 and the Sterling, but I do not know by how much.
 
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Old Jul 31, 2019 | 07:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Eric Swartz
We're looking at the F250 & F350 for towing a travel trailer for now & maybe a 5th wheel in the future. According to the 2018 SuperDuty brochure, the F250, Crew Cab, 6.7 PS, 4X4, 159.8" WB, 10k GVWR, the Payload capacity is 3470#. I'm presuming the 2019 is the same, I don't have a 2019 brochure. I thought most F250 or 3/4 ton trucks Payloads were closer to 2500#. If this is true the F250 would work for us, I know the F350 payload is higher, but they are harder to find in the crew cab short box configuration. Just wanting to make sure I'm not missing something.
How often do you tow? Maybe a gasser 250 with 4:30 gears will suit you just fine. Or take a leap of faith and get the new 7.3 gas in the 2020 model.
 
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Old Jul 31, 2019 | 08:09 AM
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Here's some numbers for you. This truck:



With these tires, axles and springs:



Has this payload:



Even accounting for the 100 lb difference between the 9900 gvwr and the 10000 gvwr package, that would only bring it to 2949 lbs payload with the gasser, spec'd this way.

Now, I do tow a fifth wheel with this truck, but it's one of those supposed '1/2 ton towable' fifth wheels, with a dry weight of only 7407 lbs, and a dry pin of 1140, that when loaded is somewhere between 8200-8300 lbs and a loaded pin between 1700-1800 lbs (depending on how much we load up, a weekend's worth vs. a week's worth). At these numbers, the weight of my family and the weight of my hitch, etc... I'm pretty much right on the cusp of my limits, and probably a bit over when going downhill. Most other fivers are way heavier than mine, even other ones billed as '1/2 ton towable'.

I had my own reasons for going 3/4 ton, and I knew I could make the numbers work, cause I already had the trailer picked out (and bought). But if you don't have a specific reason for staying under the 10,000 gvwr limit like I did (because of Ontario's confusing mess of licensing/registration laws), then I'd always recommend going with the full 1-ton. Especially if you want a diesel. Basically, a diesel F350 is going to be in same payload ballpark as a gas F250, with a bit of extra room to spare. And believe when all is said and done, the prices work out about the same, so it's not like you'd be really saving much going to an F250.
 
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Old Jul 31, 2019 | 08:24 AM
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I can put close to 3,000 on my pin in my f250 but its a gooseneck and only me in the truck doing deliveries, no tool box either.

I would recommend a 350 for 5th wheeling though. Little extra spring and yellow sticker for cargo besides the pin.

You can also order if you cant find one.
 
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Old Jul 31, 2019 | 09:25 AM
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Thanks for the quick responses. I knew I was missing something. Thanks again.
 
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