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Old Jul 30, 2019 | 05:10 PM
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Im about to do an initial oil change on my 2019 6.2 with 2500ish miles. I wanted to get the break in oil out. Then Ill do it again at 5000. Then at 5,000 intervals thereafter. Ive seen guys praising the stock Motorcraft filters because of the check valve. Sounds plausible to me. What filters are you guys using in your gas motors?
Secondly Im a full synth kind of guy. Ive seen people praising the Motorcraft full synth as well. My initial instinct is to go with something premium like Amsoil or Royal Purple or something like that. Ive always used Valvoline products as well.
What oils are you guys using and who swears by the Motorcraft oil?
And finally, Have any of you changed out the rears or transfer case initially at low miles to get the break in oil out as well?

When I say break in oil I dont mean to say they use a certain oil. I just want to get the initial filings out right off.

Thanks in advance. Im sure this will generate a lot of fierce debate.
 
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Old Jul 30, 2019 | 05:46 PM
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I use Motorcraft filters because they are convenient (Walmart), and it satisfies the requirements for my warranty (meaning, they can't deny a blown engine because I was using a Fram or some such crap filter...)

I run either Valvoline or Mobil 1 full synthetic...

I changed mine at 2k, then 7k, and plan on 5-6k intervals from there on (twice a year)
 
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Old Jul 30, 2019 | 05:57 PM
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Did mine just over 1k as I was going to tow my boat about 400 miles RT. Motorcraft filer and Mobil 1. I don’t know if it’s break-in oil or regular stuff but there was a lot of metal shavings in the oil that came out. Can’t imagine what might have been in the filter assuming it caught most of the junk. Glad I didn’t wait until 7.5k.
 
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Old Jul 30, 2019 | 07:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Mikelikesit
Im about to do an initial oil change on my 2019 6.2 with 2500ish miles. I wanted to get the break in oil out. Then Ill do it again at 5000. Then at 5,000 intervals thereafter. Ive seen guys praising the stock Motorcraft filters because of the check valve. Sounds plausible to me. What filters are you guys using in your gas motors?
Secondly Im a full synth kind of guy. Ive seen people praising the Motorcraft full synth as well. My initial instinct is to go with something premium like Amsoil or Royal Purple or something like that. Ive always used Valvoline products as well.
What oils are you guys using and who swears by the Motorcraft oil?
And finally, Have any of you changed out the rears or transfer case initially at low miles to get the break in oil out as well?

When I say break in oil I dont mean to say they use a certain oil. I just want to get the initial filings out right off.

Thanks in advance. Im sure this will generate a lot of fierce debate.
I don't see anything wrong with your plan.

That said, we've got a 2012 Edge with a 2.0 Ecoboost that just turned over 100,000 miles a couple months ago. It's been driven hard and the only oil changes were when the oil life monitor was showing 15% or less. This was usually around 7500 miles. I used Motorcraft or other semi-synthetic for most of the changes. I used Havoline full synthetic once and a conventional oil for a couple. The car runs as well as when we bought it and I never have to add oil between changes (I check it monthly).

I think the bottom line with these new engines is that it's hard to hurt them as long as you at least follow the recommended service intervals. Changing oil more often or using better oil and filters than is required doesn't hurt anything except maybe the total cost of ownership.So whatever feels right to you is probably right for you.
 
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Old Jul 30, 2019 | 09:09 PM
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Motorcraft 5w-30 semisyn and a Motorcraft filter, just like the manual says. I change my oil every 4K so a full synthetic would be a waste of $.
 
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Old Jul 30, 2019 | 09:55 PM
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I used to be an AMSOil user. Not any longer. My truck is on the severe duty cycle because most of my miles are towing an 11K bumper pull trailer through the Rocky Mountains. I don't see a reason to buy premium oil if I'm changing it every 5,000 miles. My truck has about 15,200 miles.

I use Motorcraft filters and Valvoline Premium Blue Extreme 5w-40. The filters are convenient at Wal-Mart. I might switch to Rotella T6 because it's also convenient at Wal-Mart. But I'm getting Valvoline for about $19 a gallon on Amazon. I use the Fumoto drain valve to make the oil change easy and clean.

If I get bored in the next couple of months I'll change the fluid in the differentials and transfer case. I stocked up on Mobil 1 gear lube and I have a lot of AMSOil ATF still in inventory that I would like to use up (in the transfer case).
 
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Old Jul 30, 2019 | 11:28 PM
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So many of you are changing your oil three times in a time frame that your truck is only calling for one. Why does Ford reccomend an interval that so many obviously believe is detrimental to the engine? Why would Ford do anything that puts them at risk of a massive warranty claim? I understand that many of us were changing our oil every 3000 miles when we started driving but now most vehicles tell us exactly when we should change it. When the truck tells me it needs an oil change, I do it. I can just imagine Ford denying a warranty claim because the owner performed excessive oil changes, disregarding Ford's specific instructions.
 
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Old Jul 31, 2019 | 04:26 AM
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Stocked up with Motorcraft filters off Amazon -- good filters at a good price. Any good full syn oil will be fine.
 
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Old Jul 31, 2019 | 05:14 AM
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Motorcraft filter and mobile 1 full synthetic from Walmart every 5k miles for me.
 
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Old Jul 31, 2019 | 08:58 AM
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Mobile 1 Full synthetic and filter. Easiest oil change I have ever done as everything is easy to get to
 
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Old Jul 31, 2019 | 09:04 AM
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Originally Posted by JD'sBigredv10
So many of you are changing your oil three times in a time frame that your truck is only calling for one. Why does Ford reccomend an interval that so many obviously believe is detrimental to the engine? Why would Ford do anything that puts them at risk of a massive warranty claim? I understand that many of us were changing our oil every 3000 miles when we started driving but now most vehicles tell us exactly when we should change it. When the truck tells me it needs an oil change, I do it. I can just imagine Ford denying a warranty claim because the owner performed excessive oil changes, disregarding Ford's specific instructions.
This rhetorical questions deserves a rhetorical answer: Because we can. Because we want to. Duh.

My truck figured out it was on the severe duty cycle and is asking for an oil change close to the 5,000 mile interval that I'm doing anyhow.
 
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Old Jul 31, 2019 | 09:24 AM
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Originally Posted by HRTKD
I used to be an AMSOil user. Not any longer. My truck is on the severe duty cycle because most of my miles are towing an 11K bumper pull trailer through the Rocky Mountains. I don't see a reason to buy premium oil if I'm changing it every 5,000 miles. My truck has about 15,200 miles.

I use Motorcraft filters and Valvoline Premium Blue Extreme 5w-40. The filters are convenient at Wal-Mart. I might switch to Rotella T6 because it's also convenient at Wal-Mart. But I'm getting Valvoline for about $19 a gallon on Amazon. I use the Fumoto drain valve to make the oil change easy and clean.

If I get bored in the next couple of months I'll change the fluid in the differentials and transfer case. I stocked up on Mobil 1 gear lube and I have a lot of AMSOil ATF still in inventory that I would like to use up (in the transfer case).
Might I ask why you no longer use Amsoil? Just curious.....
 
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Old Jul 31, 2019 | 09:26 AM
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Originally Posted by HRTKD
This rhetorical questions deserves a rhetorical answer: Because we can. Because we want to. Duh.

My truck figured out it was on the severe duty cycle and is asking for an oil change close to the 5,000 mile interval that I'm doing anyhow.
Did you just Duh me? Ouch! Good thing you followed it up with a smiley face because that makes it okay.

My question was semi-rhetorical. There are many things that we can do because we want to. I like to wash all of my cars just about weekly. Don't need to, but I do it anyways. Aside from the financial and time impact, there is no downside that I know of to changing your oil as often as you want. The actual (non-rhetorical) question; Is there any real benefit? If truck A gets an oil change every 3,000 miles, will the motor last longer or have fewer issues than truck B that receives oil changes only when the computer says it needs one?
 
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Old Jul 31, 2019 | 09:51 AM
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Originally Posted by FOURBYBUD
Might I ask why you no longer use Amsoil? Just curious.....
1. Lack of readily available inventory. No store around me stocks AMSOil.
2. Expense. It's quite a bit more expensive.
3. 12 Month Interval. I don't put enough miles on my truck to come anywhere close to an extended oil change interval. I end up doing it almost at the 12 month mark. AMSOil is quite explicit that their signature series interval was 15,000 miles or 12 months, whichever comes first.
4. Blackstone Labs opinion on quality. They wrote an article a couple years ago that basically said, "Buy what you want, they're almost all the same." Oil has come a long way and the mainstream oils are so good that it didn't make sense to me to use an oil that might be 3% better.
5. And finally, the bugaboo that everyone knocks AMSOil for: Lack of actual certifications. You won't find AMSOil on Ford's approved CK-4 list. It's not on a lot of other certifications either. They say they exceed such and such certifications, but they haven't actually gone through the certification process.

If someone gave me a couple cases of AMSOil, I would probably use it. But I'm not going to buy it.

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Did you just Duh me? Ouch! Good thing you followed it up with a smiley face because that makes it okay.

My question was semi-rhetorical. There are many things that we can do because we want to. I like to wash all of my cars just about weekly. Don't need to, but I do it anyways. Aside from the financial and time impact, there is no downside that I know of to changing your oil as often as you want. The actual (non-rhetorical) question; Is there any real benefit? If truck A gets an oil change every 3,000 miles, will the motor last longer or have fewer issues than truck B that receives oil changes only when the computer says it needs one?
I don't recall where I saw it, but within the past few months there was a study that said that engine wear was better when the oil "went the distance" rather than getting changed in short intervals. I was doing 10K intervals in my Nissan Titan with AMSOil. With an oil that expensive, you darn well better not be changing it every 3,000 miles or you really are throwing money away.

I think with the older oils (60's and 70's) a short interval was likely to produce an engine that lasted a long time, all things being equal. Today, the modern oils are so much better that a 7,500 OCI is common. However, like I've said already, mine is on the severe duty cycle. Towing an 11K trailer up 11K mountain passes produces some serious heat in the engine. I routinely see engine oil temperatures of 243°.

I don't consider the Valvoline PBE 5w-40 to be expensive at all, so a 5K OCI doesn't phase me in the least. I've got the oil change procedure on my 6.7L figured out now so it isn't a difficult or time consuming task at all. I also look at it as an opportunity to get underneath the truck and perform an inspection of everything from bumper to bumper. I also rotate the tires during each oil change.

The argument for ignoring the IOLM is that it doesn't know the current status of the oil from testing. It's guessing based on how the engine has been used. I think it is a very good guess. But it doesn't know if the oil is breaking down or if the additives are depleted.
 
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Old Jul 31, 2019 | 10:51 AM
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