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Old Jul 28, 2019 | 11:03 PM
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Like some say, I did not buy a pickup for mileage. Having said that, I still like getting the best MPG I can while having the capabilities I want. I have an 2018 SCREW Lariat FX4 with the 3.5I EB. I'm getting 14-15 in town and 20 on the Hwy at 75. OK, I don't get 21 but I'm happy with it. I get 9 to 13 towing a 6K lb trailer and that's pretty good in my book.
 

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Old Jul 28, 2019 | 11:12 PM
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By the way, I compute the MPG myself. The Lie-O-Meter always shows 1 or 2 MPG optimistic. It averages 6% high.
 
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Old Jul 29, 2019 | 12:27 AM
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By the way, I compute the MPG myself. The Lie-O-Meter always shows 1 or 2 MPG optimistic. It averages 6% high.
Mine is off by a similar amount.
 
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Old Jul 29, 2019 | 05:35 AM
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MPG estimates are made using the lightest vehicle of the class equipped with the tallest gears. So, if one is truck shopping after having ingested a bottle testosterone tablets, one may purchase way more truck then they need.

This fight was at the forefront of most discussions in the 2009-2014 forum. Guys would buy a truck with the 3.5L, 3.73 axles, Screw loaded tot he hilt and bich because their mileage was low. They they'd call me a liar because I have a truck that is mid to lower trim level, Scab and 3.31 axles with the 3.5L. I've never not been well within the EPA estimates. I bought what I needed and not that tow monster that everyone thinks they should have.
 
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Old Jul 29, 2019 | 09:17 AM
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I get better than the EPA estimate in my 2016 5.0...

My LOM is off by about .5mpg, good enough for me
 
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Old Jul 29, 2019 | 09:21 AM
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The LOM can be adjusted by putting the cluster in engineering test mode. Go to AFE bias and adjust it up or down to make it more accurate.

 
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Old Jul 29, 2019 | 09:27 AM
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Something people forget is that the EPA cycle test is done under very specific conditions. The numbers on the sticker are the results of those tests.
Unless you are driving the EPA test cycle...you really shouldn't expect to get those exact numbers.
I can hit the EPA estimates (estimate....another word people forget is on the sticker...EPA fuel economy ESTIMATE) if I try...but I don't normally try.

I think lots of these class action lawsuits come from the lawyers. They find a weakness to try to extort money from large companies...then they try to have lots of people join....so the lawyers make $MM and the real bill for this goes to the company's customers.
So, the law firm will push for a $100 million lawsuit and then we all get stuck paying an extra $50 for every truck. The people they get to join the lawsuit will get a free oil change or less.....

That's how I see it. I would have a different view if my truck only got half the EPA, because it would be grossly inaccurate. However, in my opinion, it all comes down to where and how you drive.
 
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Old Jul 29, 2019 | 10:13 AM
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Personally I have only come close to the highway claimed mpg once and that was following a school bus (drafting) while doing 60mph. And one thing I could see getting Ford in trouble is the fact the the lie-o-meter is programmed from the factory to read high.
Do I worry about the mpg on mine? Not really, it's a truck and I drive faster than the controlled environment tests were done at (even though the texts are a bunch of b.s.) and I use my air conditioner. Would I like to get 20mpg? Well, yeah!!
 
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Old Jul 29, 2019 | 01:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Bullitt390
I get better than the EPA estimate in my 2016 5.0...

My LOM is off by about .5mpg, good enough for me
My numbers are just like yours. I live in a very rural part of my state. I think my brakes will last 150,000 miles. lol
 
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Old Jul 29, 2019 | 09:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Bullitt390
I get better than the EPA estimate in my 2016 5.0...

My LOM is off by about .5mpg, good enough for me
The window sticker on my truck tells me my combined average mpg should be 18 mpg (16 city, 22 highway). I've entered all fuel purchases since the truck was brand spanking new into an Excel spreadsheet and with the truck now having over 37000 miles on the odometer, that spreadsheet tells me my overall average since the truck was new is 20.87 mpg or almost 3 mpg better than the combined average. I'm happy with that...no grounds for a lawsuit here!

And lest someone thinks I baby the truck, here's a screen shot of my Garmin GPS taken right after I returned from a 3745.5 mile trip a few days ago. Despite the traffic jams and construction (seems half the time I was driving through orange barrels) my moving average speed was 71 mpg.
 
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Old Jul 31, 2019 | 09:26 AM
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This all pretty much boils down to what one's needs or desires are. If you need a workhorse you buy a truck knowing full well your mileage will be on the low to medium side. If however you want mileage, then you buy a fuel efficient car. If you need both then buy both or find a vehicle that falls somewhere in-between.
 
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Old Jul 31, 2019 | 09:09 PM
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This all pretty much boils down to what one's needs or desires are. If you need a workhorse you buy a truck knowing full well your mileage will be on the low to medium side. If however you want mileage, then you buy a fuel efficient car. If you need both then buy both or find a vehicle that falls somewhere in-between.
but that simple is wrong. I want a 1,000 hp and 30 miles per gallon. and the ability to tow 20,000 lbs with my F150!
 
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Old Aug 1, 2019 | 06:40 PM
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but that simple is wrong. I want a 1,000 hp and 30 miles per gallon. and the ability to tow 20,000 lbs with my F150!
Get in line.
 
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Old Aug 1, 2019 | 08:00 PM
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I don't have a whole lot more to add to what has already been said. You can give the exact same vehicle to 3 different people, have them drive the same route under exact same conditions and still get 3 different results for MPG. People use their right foot differently than others. Some accelerate very quickly, others are mild, most are somewhere in the middle. The faster you accelerate, the more fuel you burn.

Also I am willing to bet some of those people don't fully comprehend what "Highway" truly means for fuel economy tests. Most of us that drive at "Freeway" speeds (over 70 mph) notice our mileage doesn't meet the printed HWY estimate. But if you drive at more traditional "Highway" speeds of 55-65 mph, you will see your fuel economy come a lot closer to the printed HWY estimates.

I get around 18-19mpg HWY (not freeway) with my 2010 5.4V8 and am quite happy with those results. The 2001 Ranger that my F150 replaced only got about 14-15 and it was a smaller engine, 4.0V6, moving a lighter truck.
 
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Old Aug 2, 2019 | 04:02 PM
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Drove an Excursion 7.3 for 14 years, followed by a 09 5.4 F-150... mileage is just something I wrote down in the log book. My new EB 3.5 SCREW 6.5' bed has 17/23 on the window sticker and mileage on the first tank (hand calculated) is 13.9. I was somewhat disappointed.

With 1/3 left on this tank, the dash mileage says 14.1 so here's to hoping it gets closer to 17 after a bit of break in.
 
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