Stirring the pot
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Sennix, do you remember the first round of super duty turbo diesels. I thought you had one. I had a 2001 F250. Fords tow rating for fifth wheels for both 250 and 350 trucks was "20.000 lbs less the weight of the truck". So if applied my short f250 could tow more fifth wheel than a long bed dually.
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You are stirring the pot for no reason though, unless you want to discuss 5th wheel towing with a 1/2 ton truck. Scott has it right. The door sticker GVWR for the truck is a meaningless DMV number for plating purposes in many states. What matters is the Front/Rear GAWR on that same sticker, combined with the load capacity for the tires you have on your truck. Never exceed the lessor max capacity of those two, period.
Absolutely correct, And the axle ratings are tire specific. Get better tires carry more. Hard to get enough stuff on a truck to bend an axle housing but over loaded tires have and will blow out.
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Sennix, do you remember the first round of super duty turbo diesels. I thought you had one. I had a 2001 F250. Fords tow rating for fifth wheels for both 250 and 350 trucks was "20.000 lbs less the weight of the truck". So if applied my short f250 could tow more fifth wheel than a long bed dually.
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Yesterday, I was driving interstate 90 to go to Rochester for a family party. I started approaching a camper that was swaying back and forth once in awhile. It was a decent size, maybe 20 feet or so. Pulling it was a Mercedes SUV that was squatting in the rear and the front end pointing up. Looked like two yuppies with New Hampshire plates. He had the snap on mirror extensions as he truly needed them.
As I got closer, I thought of this thread. I grabbed my phone but dropped it so I couldn't take a picture. There was no way that SUV should have been towing that trailer. Way overloaded. I definitely wanted to be nowhere near them...
As I got closer, I thought of this thread. I grabbed my phone but dropped it so I couldn't take a picture. There was no way that SUV should have been towing that trailer. Way overloaded. I definitely wanted to be nowhere near them...
#23
StanleyZ is correct. Getting higher rated tires will increase the load you can carry.
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I think that was my point. Thr rawr is tire dependent. Increase tire rating and rawr increases. Of course the numbers on the door jamb don’t change. And I guess to cover all the bases yes there is probably an upper limit at which the axle housing or wheel bearings or the axles them selves would fail. But anyone with walking around sense will not load to that level.
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I think that was my point. Thr rawr is tire dependent. Increase tire rating and rawr increases. Of course the numbers on the door jamb don’t change. And I guess to cover all the bases yes there is probably an upper limit at which the axle housing or wheel bearings or the axles them selves would fail. But anyone with walking around sense will not load to that level.
#27
I have never seen any documentation on the weight rating solely on an axle.
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Google search the subject guys...my comments still stand until someone proves otherwise. GAWR on the sticker is max engineering limits set by Ford. Changing to heavier duty wheels/tires does not change that. Changing to lighter duty wheels/tires reduces the load that can be safely carried.
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