Sorry to burst your bubble, but you are incorrect:

Hemi Baracuda/Dart 10.80 1/4 mile (Back in the day)
well, that is not 12's but you get the point
(source Muscle car review August/september 1995)

1969 Road runner 12.91 @ 111.8 mph
(source: Super stock 6/69)
Also on Bias ply tires.

Also Stock Dodge vipers run low 12's.

Actually, the LS6 Powered Chevelle could also do 12's,

The 66 Shelby is Not a real ford. It was not built by Ford, it was built by Carol Shelby
who is pretty much a tuner like hennesey who tunes vipers that run under 10 sec 1/4's.

 

I will have to read this article about the Hemi Baracuda/Dart doing 10.8 because I've never heard of a stock production vehicle in the 10's. They wouldn't even have the tires or control to do so ( stock ).

 

american muscle cars (on the speed channel)said the the 6 pack 440 was faster stock compared to the hemi , but like I said a little exhaust upgrade and it owned the streets. I think the hemi had to much torque and could not hook up off the line headers would fix that and increase upper rpm horsepower numbers. I did not live in the era nor have I seen a real hemi;Big Daddy Don Garlits(forgive me if I spelled this wrong) said the 5.7 hemis are not hemis.almost nothing that dodge makes or designed has proved to be relieable lately(last 21 years) so I am not fond of the new mopar. I'd bet that dodge will go under in 6 to 10 years. ford and chevy have alot stronger market base . It is sad that I have not seen the real mopar.

 

i believe the real reason the Hemi was 2nd place to the 440 was due to its inability to keep in tune and was to radical for the street. but back to the basics, i have been doing some research and i believe i would take a "600" hp 514 stroker...but i'll still vote the 428CJ.

 

4287scj all the way!!

 

The 440 and hemi made identical peak torque numbers, but the 440 made it at a lower rpm and had a broader curve, which made it better off the line.

 

The 440 Six Pack and the Hemi both made 490 lb-ft of torque, and the 440 Magnum (single 4 barrel) made 480 lb-ft of torque. For horsepower, the 426 Street Hemi made 425, the 440 six Pack made 390 in 1969 and 1970, and 385 in 1971, and the 440 Magnum made 375 in 1967-1970 and 370 in 1971. I have a 1970 Coronet R/T with the 440 Magnum (41K original miles, all stock), and yes, it makes a lot of torque! But, so did the big blocks from GM, Ford, and even the AMC 390/401!

 

I like the 427 SOHC
here's a pic


this ones coverted to belt drive


http://www.geocities.com/infieldg/v8sohc427.html

http://phystutor.tripod.com/stang/engines/427sohc.html

 

NO question in my mind. The ZL-1. NOTHING compares. For those that may not know, it was an aluminum 427 derivative of the L-88 (also bad***). Put a 69 Vette into the 10's in 1969 on slicks. After that, 440 sixpack, 427 chevy, 455 olds. Cheers.

 

can hemi darts really be considered "stock production" vehicles anyway? i think i read where the ones that were sold came with a notice that the vehicle wasn't for street use. plus i think they only made like 50 of them? i'm not sure of the excact number but it wasn't alot. then theres the acid dipped body panels, stripped interior,plastic windows Ect..... wish i could have had one new. as far as favorite big block, i'll take the tried and true 460. easy to find ,build it as bad as you want (can afford) and will go alot of miles with good maint. 440's were great motors but try and find one nowadays. i owned a 69 ranchero GT with a 428 CJ in my younger days. wish i still had it to play with lightnings. talk about a sleeper...

 

Anything from the FE family!!

 

Seriously though, if people can count the 427 SOHC and the all aluminum 427 Vette than the dart could be right there. As neither of them were for the street either.

 

Don't know about the SOHC, or the Hemi Dart, but the ZL-1 WAS an RPO for the Vette and the Camaro. Not many made (2 vettes, 69 camaros) but it was an RPO.

 

Wellsir, My fave big block...hmm...I'm a real big fan of the '64 426 max wedge (rated at 425hp, 480lbs/ft...thats EPA RATED) or the 528 HEMI...makes like 650hp...makes me drool...

 

The 440 mopars with the 6 pack are freaking animals, as far as i know yes, stock they will run a quicker quarter than a hemi but you can do little to the hemi and it will run like a raped ape. I am in the process of trying to aquire a 440 in a 73 roadrunner (dad owned one) But i would like to get a 426 hemi in a Charger sadly i dont have THAT much cash flow. The 454 was always a dependable motor with decent power but not so much as the 440 IMO, the 460 was sheer and utter crap. The 428 was solid too, much torque. I am somewhat a fan of the 400 Big Block to for the simple fact of all that you can do to it for how cheap it can be done.