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Old Jun 23, 2019 | 08:34 PM
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Need some brake help

I'm have very little brake pedal, no brakes till pedal is about 90% down
I installed a new master cylinder (old one blew a seal)
New rear wheel cylinders, hardware, shoes and turned drums.
All brakes are adjusted
I bled master cylinder and all wheels

I'm stumped

75 f250 Highboy 4x4
Front and rear drum brakes
 
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Old Jun 23, 2019 | 09:39 PM
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Does the pedal return to the normal height ? sometimes you have to adjust the length of the rod to fit a new MC.

If that's not it you probably still have air in the system. it can be a real SOB to get everything bled sometimes.
 
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Old Jun 23, 2019 | 09:49 PM
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Does the pedal return to the normal height ? sometimes you have to adjust the length of the rod to fit a new MC.

If that's not it you probably still have air in the system. it can be a real SOB to get everything bled sometimes.
Yes the pedal returns to full height
I will look at the rod length
I vacuum bled it and used the pedal
 
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Old Jun 23, 2019 | 11:26 PM
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Did you bench bleed the MC ? if not you're going to have to bleed it to death to pull the air through the slave cylinders

Vac with pedal is how I do it too. but more than once I've had issues.
 
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Old Jun 24, 2019 | 07:11 AM
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If your master cylinder is bled, and everything else mentioned is right, I'd suspect the proportioning valve. Best brake modification I've done is bypass/delete the proportioning valve and installed adjustable valve on rear brake line only.
 
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Old Jun 24, 2019 | 11:35 AM
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Most likely one of 3 things.
Master cylinder not bench bled
Improperly adjusted or assembled shoes resulting in too much travel before contact with drum. (Try pinching the rear brake hose off with vise grips. Not so tight to damage hose, just enough to block fluid. If you get better pedal problem is with rear brakes)
Master cylinder is defective and fluid is passing by the piston seals
 
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Old Jun 25, 2019 | 02:24 PM
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The last thing mentioned above is becoming quite common anymore, new in no way guarantees a good product at all..
 
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Old Jun 25, 2019 | 03:12 PM
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I swore there was something wrong with my new master cylinder or my install until I went through and bled everything a second time. That's the easiest place to start and might solve your problem.
 
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Old Jun 25, 2019 | 10:56 PM
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I'm going to try bleeding it again
Double check the shoe adjustment
Check the pushed length I used the one in the truck not the one that came with new master cylinder
 
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