Does anyone have a good photo showing the proper orientation and location of all the hardware associated with mounting the vent frame pivot in place? It hard to see in the truck parts manual, and I am getting conflicting info from vendor drawings as well that don't match the truck parts manual (and I'd be more than likely to put my money on the truck manual being correct).

I ordered the frame from NPD, which came with a set of hardware. This set of hardware is different than the individual hardware packet that NPD sells as a standalone kit (with the spring length being the most different). I also have a kit from DC, which is different from the others as well. I will try to explain this the best I can in writing - My thoughts are that the tear drop shaped piece along with the washer with square hole, both sit in the "u-channel" of the frame. Below the "u-channel" would go the 2 plastic washers, followed by a metal flat washer, then the spring, another flat washer, and then a locknut. Is that correct? On a final note, how tight is the nut supposed to be torqued to? Or just snug enough so that it doesn't back off?

 

Here's the pic of one of mine after i replaced the vent rubber.


The splined teardrop and washer sit in the little channel thing, then on the bottom side of channel, the other washer and splined part, then the spring and nut. I just tightened it down snug so the tension when opening the window felt tight. You dont want the window flapping around in the wind when open and you cant tighten the nut easily once assembled (if at all).

 

Not sure if I am answering U'r question but here goe's. It has been several years since repairing the vent windows on the 65 and seem to recall the lower vent window frame pivot assembly is knurled except for a portion that is non-knurled and can only be inserted into the frame assembly one way and the 'key' #22992 sets the vent window in the correct orientation? Not a particular fan of LMC but at the time they were the only Ford part supplier that offered the hard to find vent window components that did not come in kits.

 

Thanks a ton! That picture along with your response couldnt have been a better answer. The vent window is one of the last things I needed to throw back into the truck before being done with it, minus the paint. I know what I'll be doing this evening!

 

Is the spring assembly what keeps the wing from flopping around? I need to repair mine, something broke.

Or is it the stud mounted on the frame or something? Not looking forward to disassembly. Need my wing window!

 

Yes the spring and nut provide the tension you should feel when you open the window. But the shaft the spring and nut sit on often rust off the window frame (the shaft is riveted on) - mine did, and I believe Mearntain's did too. I had to find a new frame with a good shaft. So if yours just flops around i'd bet its rusted off.

 

Is the stud broken off of yours? The spring is there just to give the proper rotating resistance is all. You might be lucky and just have had the nut back off and everything fell in the door, but probably broke off if I am understanding right what it is you have going on. If it broke off, you gotta remove the glass and window seal from the frame so you can drill out the rivets holding what's left of the stud, and either rivet or weld a new one back in place.

 

I think it broke, but I dunno. How is the wing removed, I gotta tear the door apart? Thanks for the help.

 

Yea, theres a bit you gotta take apart but it's not real bad. Basically remove the door access panel and remove the main window from the track. Remove the 2 or 3 screws that hold the vertical window track in place (side that is contact with the vent window). Then take that track and kinda wiggle it in a way to where it's not in the way. On the angled side of the vent window frame, there are 2 screws that hold the vent frame in place to the door (theyre located on the same part of the door that the door weather strip is on. Then you should be able to pop the vent assembly out. Remove the vent window from the main frame that you just pulled and then go at repairing whatever it is that broke on you.

 

On a side note Tedster, if you do dissassemble yours and find that the pivot broke off and you want to replace the part (rather than spending $100 on a new frame), I do have a spare pivot and set of hardware. I was originally going to repair mine, but broke the frame in the process of removing the glass, so I had to buy a new frame which came with the pivot installed and new hardware. Didnt feel like messing with NPD on a return, so I've got the extra brand new parts still thatd I'd be willing to let go for less than retail cost.

 

Thank you for the explanation on that, and the offer. Doesn't sound too bad. I don't think I'm gonna be johnny on the spot with this right away though. I should take a look at it and see if something broke, or just fell off. That picture explained a lot, that's why I asked about it. I need to pick up an inspection mirror, though can I reach up there and determine what ails my wing that way?

Thanks again!

 

Theres not much in the door, you may be able to just use a shop light and look up with your head in the access panel. I already put my panel back together this morning or I'd check for you, but you should be able to reach up and feel if theres a stud hanging down with a spring on it. You also might open the panel and just see the parts laying in the bottom of the door and not even need to check.

 

One more thing I just thought of, theres a screw that holds the window track in place that isnt so obvious. Theres a circular pattern of screws on the door - the top center one is a screw that holds the window track in place. The other spots will be apparent (two screws on top of the door frame and 2 bolts inside the door panel at the bottom of the track). Just in case you havent taken the window out before, thought I'd throw that out there.

 

Ok, sounds good. I have a shop manual, but I doubt they hit on any of that. I like wing windows, it's really annoying without it.

 

Nothing like some good ole AC! I wish they still put them on modern vehicles