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Old May 10, 2019 | 03:50 PM
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Hey guys figured I’d go ahead and make a little thread to share my build. Gonna have lots of pics and lots of questions. I’ve had er since I was 18, I’m doing a rebuild on it now with my old man. It has a 302 C4 combo that was swapped in. It was originally a straight 6 3 on the tree. The swap was done before I bought it. I am currently working on the transmission, we just did the pan gasket and where the dipstick enters the pan on the inside, there is this plastic piece that presses into the dipstick tube housing... it is half broken and we got it to snap in but we are afraid it could come loose. We installed the pan with new gasket. We have been talking about it and wondering what it is, and if it does come loose will it cause any damage? We are basic diy guys with no friends in the trade to run ideas off of so I’m coming on here! Lol. More updates to come!


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Old May 10, 2019 | 03:53 PM
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Looks nice. I dig the paint/patina.

Got any pics of the trans pan youre talking about?
 
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Old May 10, 2019 | 03:56 PM
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Originally Posted by SixtyFour
Looks nice. I dig the paint/patina.

Got any pics of the trans pan youre talking about?

Should of took a picture before reinstalling it, but basically it’s a plastic piece on the inside where that tube enters
 
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Old May 10, 2019 | 05:32 PM
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Originally Posted by rustylightning

Should of took a picture before reinstalling it, but basically it’s a plastic piece on the inside where that tube enters.
Nothing illustrated in the parts catalog pic (see below) related to the trans pan (7A194) or dipstick tube (7A228) except the rubber O-ring (87034-S94) that fits into a groove towards the end of the tube.

Over time, the rubber O-ring becomes as hard as granite, begins to crack, allowing ATF to seep from the tube.

I wonder if this plastic piece is some sort of transmission shop "fixum" because I'm unaware that anything like it ever existed originally.

Do you know what the 302/C4 came from? Choices are 1968/81 cars, 1969/81 trucks/vans, 1973/77 Bronco's.

 
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Old May 10, 2019 | 08:22 PM
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I think I’m just gonna drop the pan and remove it. I’ll post a pic tomorrow. We also changed the servo cover gasket on the passenger side. After some research tonight I’m really afraid we ****’d that up. We unbolted the cover, scraped the old gasket, and put a new one in. It took us a long time, one person pushing in while the other person scraping. I’m afraid that we didn’t do this correctly and that something fell internally after reading more that you aren’t supposed to unbolt those covers. We had no idea. Maybe someone can shine some light on this subject. What should we do? Could we of messed this up? What would happen if we ran as is? Very confused with all of this
 
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Old May 10, 2019 | 08:36 PM
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I have a 351W in my 66 with that left manifold pointing at the firewall. How did they solve that problem? I had to ditch the manifolds for a set of shorty headers because the long tube headers would not work with clutch linkage.
 
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Old May 10, 2019 | 08:38 PM
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Originally Posted by NumberDummy
Nothing illustrated in the parts catalog pic (see below) related to the trans pan (7A194) or dipstick tube (7A228) except the rubber O-ring (87034-S94) that fits into a groove towards the end of the tube.

Over time, the rubber O-ring becomes as hard as granite, begins to crack, allowing ATF to seep from the tube.

I wonder if this plastic piece is some sort of transmission shop "fixum" because I'm unaware that anything like it ever existed originally.

Do you know what the 302/C4 came from? Choices are 1968/81 cars, 1969/81 trucks/vans, 1973/77 Bronco's.

I will get a pic tomorrow for you when I drop the pan. I don’t know what it came out of but I can definitely take pictures of the casting numbers tomorrow to decode if possible.
 
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I think the wooden stake bed looks pretty good. I'm going over the pictures again and it seems to go good with the stance. ~Pat
 
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Originally Posted by rustylightning
I will get a pic tomorrow for you when I drop the pan. I don’t know what it came out of but I can definitely take pictures of the casting numbers tomorrow to decode if possible.
Casting numbers cannot be decoded, because they are foundry marks.

Any ID number you find on the case or extension housing will be worthless, because none are specific to a certain year.

See parts catalog pic for location of the A/T ID tag (that's probably missing by now).

 
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Originally Posted by rustylightning
I think I’m just gonna drop the pan and remove it. I’ll post a pic tomorrow. We also changed the servo cover gasket on the passenger side. After some research tonight I’m really afraid we ****’d that up. We unbolted the cover, scraped the old gasket, and put a new one in. It took us a long time, one person pushing in while the other person scraping. I’m afraid that we didn’t do this correctly and that something fell internally after reading more that you aren’t supposed to unbolt those covers. We had no idea. Maybe someone can shine some light on this subject. What should we do? Could we of messed this up? What would happen if we ran as is? Very confused with all of this
It is possible a band strut could have fallen off when you removed that cover. You need to pull the pan and make sure they are in their proper place. If you don't have a Ford shop manual you can get a Haynes, Ford Auto trans overhaul manual at about any of the auto parts houses. They are great for someone who has never worked on a transmission because they have lots of pictures and they tell you how to do stuff to a trans without all the special tools that the Ford manual is going to tell you to use.
 
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Old May 11, 2019 | 04:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Crop Duster
It is possible a band strut could have fallen off when you removed that cover. You need to pull the pan and make sure they are in their proper place. If you don't have a Ford shop manual you can get a Haynes, Ford Auto trans overhaul manual at about any of the auto parts houses. They are great for someone who has never worked on a transmission because they have lots of pictures and they tell you how to do stuff to a trans without all the special tools that the Ford manual is going to tell you to use.
Yah gonna have to grab one of them. Guess I have to pull the valve body and take a visual look up there? Problem is we don’t know what to look for maybe the book will help.
 
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Originally Posted by NumberDummy
Casting numbers cannot be decoded, because they are foundry marks.

Any ID number you find on the case or extension housing will be worthless, because none are specific to a certain year.

See parts catalog pic for location of the A/T ID tag (that's probably missing by now).


These are what I found today on the engine. Will get back to the transmission sometime tomorrow or Monday hopefully



 
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