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Old May 2, 2019 | 08:18 PM
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Fan speed sensor

2003 F250 6.0 and my FSS on the Scan Gauge now sits at zero constantly. Additionally, the fan speed runs right along RPMs. Hold a constant speed on the interstate and get a constant fan speed until you let off. Engine temp has nothing to do with it. It goes that way right from the initial start up, when all the temps are air temp. I figure the sensor is bad so it just runs based on some other control system, which seems to be the throttle. Is that about right? Is this a DIY repair project? What part needs to be replaced? Thanks.
 
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Old May 3, 2019 | 09:01 AM
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I would highly recommend getting a mechanical fan clutch and remove the computer controlled fan clutch. I had this same issue on my 03 6.0, I wasted a lot of time trying to fix this issue.
 
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Old May 3, 2019 | 09:35 AM
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Originally Posted by DieselVol
2003 F250 6.0 and my FSS on the Scan Gauge now sits at zero constantly. Additionally, the fan speed runs right along RPMs. Hold a constant speed on the interstate and get a constant fan speed until you let off. Engine temp has nothing to do with it. It goes that way right from the initial start up, when all the temps are air temp. I figure the sensor is bad so it just runs based on some other control system, which seems to be the throttle. Is that about right? Is this a DIY repair project? What part needs to be replaced? Thanks.
I did an Electric Fan swap on my Jeep. The fan needs to get a reading of the coolant whether it’s a probe through the radiator or sensor. I got tired of the probe style thermostat and went with a VSS, variable speed sensor that is plumbed in the top radiator hose. Sounds like you need to figure out where the sensor is located and either replace it or improve its ability to read the engine temperature. The fan should NOT run of vehicle speed but rather engine temperature...
 
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Old May 3, 2019 | 09:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Colorado350
I did an Electric Fan swap on my Jeep. The fan needs to get a reading of the coolant whether it’s a probe through the radiator or sensor. I got tired of the probe style thermostat and went with a VSS, variable speed sensor that is plumbed in the top radiator hose. Sounds like you need to figure out where the sensor is located and either replace it or improve its ability to read the engine temperature. The fan should NOT run of vehicle speed but rather engine temperature...
That’s what I figured. Not sure how to find it, but I agree that it seems to be the problem. Lots of old discussions from years ago on this site as to what all figures into activating the fan. I’m thinking that when the temp probe goes, it defaults to RPM. Bottom line, it seems this is not likely a DIY project.
 
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Old May 3, 2019 | 09:45 AM
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I would highly recommend getting a mechanical fan clutch and remove the computer controlled fan clutch. I had this same issue on my 03 6.0, I wasted a lot of time trying to fix this issue.
Does the mechanical version just run at a constant speed? If not, what controls it? If it’s RPM, well, I've already got that. 😏
 
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Old May 3, 2019 | 09:56 AM
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Originally Posted by DieselVol
Does the mechanical version just run at a constant speed? If not, what controls it? If it’s RPM, well, I've already got that. 😏
Here it is direct from the manufactuer Hayden.

Thermal Fan Clutches operate in response to underhood temperatures. When the engine is cold, the fan is disconnected; when too much heat is generated, the fan is allowed to cool the engine. A bi-metal thermostatic coil mounted at the front of the clutch senses the underhood temperature and operates the clutch accordingly.
 
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Old May 3, 2019 | 10:09 AM
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Here it is direct from the manufactuer Hayden.

Thermal Fan Clutches operate in response to underhood temperatures. When the engine is cold, the fan is disconnected; when too much heat is generated, the fan is allowed to cool the engine. A bi-metal thermostatic coil mounted at the front of the clutch senses the underhood temperature and operates the clutch accordingly.
That sounds better than what I have. I noticed that mine no longer speeds up based on rising temperatures and does not do a particularly good job of cooling. I have the Mishimoto (sp?) thermostat and typically run 206-210 degrees. It used to really fire up at 210 and blow it back down to about 204. Now it just sits at 210. I wonder what it would do if I was pulling my Bobcat? I suspect the temps would rise further and the fan would not react. Does the mechanical motor have the ability to go up around 3000 RPM like the stock one? I’m guessing the Scan Gauge will no longer record a fan speed, as it’s no longer computer controlled.
 
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Old May 3, 2019 | 10:29 AM
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That sounds better than what I have. I noticed that mine no longer speeds up based on rising temperatures and does not do a particularly good job of cooling. I have the Mishimoto (sp?) thermostat and typically run 206-210 degrees. It used to really fire up at 210 and blow it back down to about 204. Now it just sits at 210. I wonder what it would do if I was pulling my Bobcat? I suspect the temps would rise further and the fan would not react. Does the mechanical motor have the ability to go up around 3000 RPM like the stock one? I’m guessing the Scan Gauge will no longer record a fan speed, as it’s no longer computer controlled.
Scangauge will not see a mechanical fan. The mechanical fan has some huge side benefits at engine idle the fan is engaged and pulling air in, at 2000-2200 rpm the fan disengages so in stop and go traffic you are getting better cooling and it help AC system run cooler to. When you heat it up and the thermostat in the fan engages and locks to the engine rpm it moves a lot of air and I mean a lot. The mechanical fan was 1 of the best upgrades I did on my psd.
 
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Old May 3, 2019 | 10:36 AM
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Scangauge will not see a mechanical fan. The mechanical fan has some huge side benefits at engine idle the fan is engaged and pulling air in, at 2000-2200 rpm the fan disengages so in stop and go traffic you are getting better cooling and it help AC system run cooler to. When you heat it up and the thermostat in the fan engages and locks to the engine rpm it moves a lot of air and I mean a lot. The mechanical fan was 1 of the best upgrades I did on my psd.
Ok, I’m sold. Is see I need the BPD adaptor if I go with the 7.3 version or with the model you mentioned. Any way around doing this without having to get an adapter? Just buy your brand and the BPD adaptor from BPD?
 
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Yes you need the adapter. I did use the BPD adapter and the Hayden fan clutch.
 
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Yes you need the adapter. I did use the BPD adapter and the Hayden fan clutch.
Thanks for the help.
 
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