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Old Apr 23, 2019 | 09:51 AM
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Going nuts electrically...

My 2001 F250 with the 7.3 is having some issues with the windows, wipers, etc not functioning when I twist the key to ACC. If I start the truck, these items still will not operate for the first minute or two. Is this a faulty GEM? I have checked the Delay Relays and swapping them out does not help.

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Old Apr 23, 2019 | 10:29 AM
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Either you or a helper hold a finger on the delay relay while the key is turned to the ACC position. If the relay is energized with a delay it's probably the GEM. If the relay clicks right away then it's probably an issue with the circuit that passes through the relay contacts.
 
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There is a relay on the gauge assembly that wears out. I am having the problem too. See here: https://circuitboardmedics.com/ford-...luster-repair/
 
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Old Apr 23, 2019 | 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted by wizkid00104
There is a relay on the gauge assembly that wears out. I am having the problem too. See here: https://circuitboardmedics.com/ford-...luster-repair/
Do you have any other info besides someone that does cluster repair? I repair some of my own BMW modules, so changing out a relay on a PCB is not a problem.
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Old Apr 23, 2019 | 03:16 PM
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There is a relay on the gauge assembly that wears out. I am having the problem too. See here: https://circuitboardmedics.com/ford-...luster-repair/
Your experience with the 02 does not apply to the OP's 01. The electrical systems are different. On an 01, the Battery Saver relay is in the GEM module.
 
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My bad, I thought they were the same.

I did do some research. I am an electrical engineer and I wanted to find a way to do it myself. I could not find a direct fit relay or socket from the pictures I found, but I think you could easily solder on some leads and connect a generic SPST relay. Here is the note I made when I was researching it: https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...l#post18231110
 
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Nah, they did a semi-major change in the Super Duty electrical systems from the 99-01 vs. 02-04 models. The GEM went away in 02 and the functions it handled were moved elsewhere.

Just as a note, the relay in the cluster is not the "Accessory Delay" relay, it's the "Battery Saver" relay which controls the accessory delay relay which is still located in the CJB.
 
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Good to know. Thank you!
 
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