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Old Apr 22, 2019 | 08:51 AM
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3G Swap

The overdrive pulley from my 2G alternator did not seem to fit the new 3G when I tried to swap them in order to maintain the same belt size. After looking online, I noticed most of the offerings for the 3Gs were 8-Groove pulleys. I believe my truck, and even the new 3G I sourced from a 3.8 mustang, has 6 groove pulleys. Did most 3Gs come with 8 and I just got lucky with a 6 groove model? I think my 2G pulley is just about 2” in diameter.

 
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Old Apr 22, 2019 | 10:05 AM
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Some were 8, many were 6 groove. Mine was a larger frame 6 groove unit 130A from a Mercury Sable. With a sight amount of tweaking and re-drilling the hole I was up and running. Install took me about 2 hours with wiring.
 
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Old Apr 22, 2019 | 10:10 AM
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I have mine installed my belt is just extremly tight now with the current 3G pulley, smog pump delete, and sagniaw swap complete. It might now be true but I had read that the saginaw swap and smog pump delete were one for one and would not change the overall belt size so the 3G pulley would be the culprit along with any difference as to the location of the center diameter. I did not need to grind the mounting tab at the top at all, just the back of the casting and it fell right in.
 
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Old Apr 22, 2019 | 11:04 AM
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I notice the truck in your sig is a 92. I don't know what came on the F150's in 92 but if it's like mine can you adjust your alternator? My 92 F250 alternator is an adjustable one so I can use various lengths of belts. My 3G alternator was built by a specialty shop and I asked them to install a standard size 6 groove pulley. The pulley on mine is 2 3/4 diameter.
 
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Old Apr 22, 2019 | 02:24 PM
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The 92 5.8 has an ear at the top and at the bottom, adjustment in in the spring tensioner but I understand your train of thought.
 
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Old Apr 22, 2019 | 04:11 PM
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I see. Your 92 F150 has the same alternator setup as my 94 did. Non adjustable alternator and the belt kept tight by a tensioner.

FWIW, when I was researching the smog pump delete on my 92 I noted I could find belts in one inch increments, sometimes even in 1/2 inch increments. I know it could be a pain in the butt to find one but maybe an inch longer belt would work for you? I measured the length I needed with a string and then I looked mine up on the internet by going to the gates site and then cross referencing the part number to the brand that my local parts store carries.
 
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Old Apr 22, 2019 | 10:21 PM
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When I did my 2g to 3g swap I got a 3g from a 1995 Stang, Direct drop in didn't worry about the pulley. For a top bolt I went to the hardware store and started with a long one and trimmed it down to size.
 
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Old Apr 23, 2019 | 09:40 AM
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I was already running an undersized belt for my 85* amp 2G. I wound up getting a little annoyed with it last night and let the belt clearance the smaller pulley by installing it and seeing what would win. I know that wasn't smart, but Jim Bean said send it and I made sure the nut was tight afterwards, so no new belt required. *the alternator was advertised as 85 amp, when i got I realized it was just an overdrive pully, I noticed the rating has been changed to 80 on rockauto now.
 
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how can you tell the difference between 2g and 3g on the outside? a lot of times you ask for a 3g and they sell you a 2 g with half of the amperage.
 
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Old Apr 23, 2019 | 12:02 PM
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Looks like the 2G alts have external cooling fans and no stud for a proper charge cable.
 
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93 and later trucks may have a small case 3g with 95 amps or so. but all 3gs will have internal fans.
 
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