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Old Apr 20, 2019 | 09:31 PM
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239 > 292 Car Engine

My 54 F250 has the original 239 which seems to be ok but the oil pressure gets pretty low, compression is about 100, and it eats some oil and and taps pretty good. I've put some casual feelers out for a decent used Y block in case the 239 ever kicks the bucket.

Today the phone rang...

I picked up this 292 (EDB) from a well known teapot carb builder, this is the engine that he tested all of his carbs on. I don't know much about it as he passed away and I bought it from his family.

So now I have this 292 sitting in my garage and I'm guessing it's an awesome engine. I'm struggling a little bit with loosing the originality of my truck but the 292 should make it much more enjoyable to drive.What do you think? Since it has a 4 barrel should i stick with it or go back to a Holley 94... So many philosophical calls.

Also, what exactly is involved in swapping this car engine (i think) into my truck. The engine is still on the run stand and will probably run if I put a carb and battery on it.

Thanks in advance for all info and input.

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Old Apr 21, 2019 | 09:17 AM
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Y-Blocksforever Might want to check some out this. Lots of little things different between car/truck and 239/292. Nothing that can't be overcame but just need to know.
 
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Old Apr 21, 2019 | 12:40 PM
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I have car engines in both my trucks. The ‘54 car 239 has the top half of a car motor mount welded to the bottom half of a truck motor mount. The ‘56 truck has a later 292 car motor. For that one, I changed the car timing cover for a truck timing cover to be able to use the truck motor mount. I kept the car oil pan because there is enough clearance between the oil pan and the axle. Dennis


 
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Old Apr 21, 2019 | 12:56 PM
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You should be able to transfer the timing chain cover from the truck engine, and then the 292 will bolt right in. I'd keep the
4 barrel intake but make sure you have the right distributor. The car exhaust manifold won't clear the steering box on the left side. Consider rams horn exhaust or headers. The single exhaust will choke the 292's performance. It's a Y Block, not many people will know the difference about what engine is in your truck, or care either.
 
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Old Apr 21, 2019 | 09:38 PM
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Thanks for all of the info!

Now I know, motor mounts and manifolds will need some consideration.

Any thoughts on what carb will work with this intake? I think this intake is for teapots but i'm hoping a more common carb will work.

What type of power do these 292's make?

It should be fun firing this thing up on the engine stand.

Thanks again,
Chris
 
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Old Apr 24, 2019 | 08:49 AM
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It's inevitable that this 292 is going to end up in my 54 at some point.

I would like to get it running on the test stand to see what I have.

Here is my current dilemma - Carburetor.

I decided that I'm going to run the later Y block distributor so I don't need to consider the load-o-matic.

The current 292 has a 4 barrel set up for a tea pot carb. I'm not going to use a teapot.

Option one - use the current intake with carb adapter plate and run a modern Holley 600. This will probably run pretty good but it's not as original as I would Like and I'll have to buy a carb and adapter.

Option two - Same plan as above but get a square bore intake so I don't need an adapter. Again, not original and I'll need to buy a carb and intake.

Option Three - Run a Holley 94. This will look better on the truck but I I've had a lot of hot start issues so the modern carb is appealing. The 4 barrel should make more power but will it really matter with a T-98 and 4:89 gears? I have 3 good Holley 94's and a intake that I think should work. So this is the least expensive option.

Option 4 - Now that I've entered the rabbit hole of non originality.... should I just LS swap it now? (just kidding)

What do you think?
 
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Old Apr 24, 2019 | 10:06 AM
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Whatever you do get it running well for your trip to Central PA Mountain Truckstock!

Was the carb the cause of your hot starts?
 
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Look at your Intake # look and see if you have a A or B intake. A was for the tea pot, B is for the newer Carbs used on just about any car or truck In later years. B is the preferred one. If you have the axle clearance you can use the car oil pan as it is. The timing chain housing/water pump will need to be changed for the truck motor mount.
 
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