push button start warning on a diesel
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Mine does that.
Changed my fuel filters last night, press button once door open no foot on brake, allow pump to cycle, repeat two more times. Hold down button door open again no foot on brake engine will start.
I don't see the problem. Why would your foot need to be on the brake to start the engine, why would that be a safety concern if it did?
edit: I have police mode enabled if it matters. I also get full accessory mode with a single press of the button door open/no brake.
Changed my fuel filters last night, press button once door open no foot on brake, allow pump to cycle, repeat two more times. Hold down button door open again no foot on brake engine will start.
I don't see the problem. Why would your foot need to be on the brake to start the engine, why would that be a safety concern if it did?
edit: I have police mode enabled if it matters. I also get full accessory mode with a single press of the button door open/no brake.
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Mine does that.
Changed my fuel filters last night, press button once door open no foot on brake, allow pump to cycle, repeat two more times. Hold down button door open again no foot on brake engine will start.
I don't see the problem. Why would your foot need to be on the brake to start the engine, why would that be a safety concern if it did?
Changed my fuel filters last night, press button once door open no foot on brake, allow pump to cycle, repeat two more times. Hold down button door open again no foot on brake engine will start.
I don't see the problem. Why would your foot need to be on the brake to start the engine, why would that be a safety concern if it did?
when I’m sitting inside with door closed, you can not start with out foot on the brake. There is a message prompt that says, put foot on brake to start
but with door open, I can start with no foot on brake..no message prompt.
the problem is if I pull my filters and attempt a fuel system prime with door open, truck will dry start ...I will not be able to prime my fuel system with door open...or standing outside.
so I need to have door closed to prime the system ....
now, is that the defualt...others are saying it’s a defect
be careful if yours does this....I doubt if you are priming the system if it truly does.
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My 19 does this as well.
However I think there’s a difference here.
Theres a difference between short press and holding it.
Im able to open door, lay key in seat for proximity, and if I hold down the push button start it’ll crank after a few seconds and no brake touched.
If it needs primed and I want accessory mode, you just push it and release. Similar to starting it when you have to put your foot on the brake. I have never held the button down to start anything.
Go try it simply just pushing the button once and allowing it to start up the screen and full power accessory mode. The fuel pump primes doing that as well.
However I think there’s a difference here.
Theres a difference between short press and holding it.
Im able to open door, lay key in seat for proximity, and if I hold down the push button start it’ll crank after a few seconds and no brake touched.
If it needs primed and I want accessory mode, you just push it and release. Similar to starting it when you have to put your foot on the brake. I have never held the button down to start anything.
Go try it simply just pushing the button once and allowing it to start up the screen and full power accessory mode. The fuel pump primes doing that as well.
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when I’m sitting inside with door closed, you can not start with out foot on the brake. There is a message prompt that says, put foot on brake to start
but with door open, I can start with no foot on brake..no message prompt.
the problem is if I pull my filters and attempt a fuel system prime with door open, truck will dry start ...I will not be able to prime my fuel system with door open...or standing outside.
so I need to have door closed to prime the system ....
now, is that the defualt...others are saying it’s a defect
be careful if yours does this....I doubt if you are priming the system if it truly does.
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but with door open, I can start with no foot on brake..no message prompt.
the problem is if I pull my filters and attempt a fuel system prime with door open, truck will dry start ...I will not be able to prime my fuel system with door open...or standing outside.
so I need to have door closed to prime the system ....
now, is that the defualt...others are saying it’s a defect
be careful if yours does this....I doubt if you are priming the system if it truly does.
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How do you know yours is primed? I wait until I can't hear air through the primary, that's about 3 key cycles.
Again I don't see the rub, they allow you to start the engine from outside the truck, I appreciate it and the last thing I would do is complain 😉
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My 19 does this as well.
However I think there’s a difference here.
Theres a difference between short press and holding it.
Im able to open door, lay key in seat for proximity, and if I hold down the push button start it’ll crank after a few seconds and no brake touched.
If it needs primed and I want accessory mode, you just push it and release. Similar to starting it when you have to put your foot on the brake. I have never held the button down to start anything.
Go try it simply just pushing the button once and allowing it to start up the screen and full power accessory mode. The fuel pump primes doing that as well.
However I think there’s a difference here.
Theres a difference between short press and holding it.
Im able to open door, lay key in seat for proximity, and if I hold down the push button start it’ll crank after a few seconds and no brake touched.
If it needs primed and I want accessory mode, you just push it and release. Similar to starting it when you have to put your foot on the brake. I have never held the button down to start anything.
Go try it simply just pushing the button once and allowing it to start up the screen and full power accessory mode. The fuel pump primes doing that as well.
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In the video I also do a closed door push to start with no brake and it does not start and I get the press brake to start banner.
with door open I do not get the banner, it just starts.
same push technique.
with door open I do not get the banner, it just starts.
same push technique.
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The button is not to be held for a normal start, merely push the button one "click" to power up and start the truck simultaneously. No need to hold the button ever unless you want to start the engine from the ground foot off the brake.
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In the first example in the video you are HOLDING the button correct?
The button is not to be held for a normal start, merely push the button one "click" to power up and start the truck simultaneously. No need to hold the button ever unless you want to start the engine from the ground foot off the brake.
The button is not to be held for a normal start, merely push the button one "click" to power up and start the truck simultaneously. No need to hold the button ever unless you want to start the engine from the ground foot off the brake.
I find it working correctly. A safety function if you will, in that it requires you to hold brake and hit button, OR you have to hold the button down thru the start cycle before it’ll fire up. For the very reason many of us would start the truck and not want to climb in the damn thing.
I dont think OP has anything wrong.
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this exactly. I’m with you, our trucks start in the identical fashion. No need to hold. In his video it appears he holds the button down just long enough.
I find it working correctly. A safety function if you will, in that it requires you to hold brake and hit button, OR you have to hold the button down thru the start cycle before it’ll fire up. For the very reason many of us would start the truck and not want to climb in the damn thing.
I dont think OP has anything wrong.
I find it working correctly. A safety function if you will, in that it requires you to hold brake and hit button, OR you have to hold the button down thru the start cycle before it’ll fire up. For the very reason many of us would start the truck and not want to climb in the damn thing.
I dont think OP has anything wrong.
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Just tested on my 2017. No brake, press the start button and you get the ACC mode (and fuel pump prime). Same test, but holding the start button down and, lo and behold, it starts after 1 - 2 seconds. Learned something new tonight.
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with door open, you can start the truck with out tapping the brake using any button technique. as demonstrated in the video. key point with door open you never get the press brake to start banner
so yes, I need to put this on a gig list and have them check it...and in the mean time...keep the door closed if I want to prime the fuel system.