looking for a y-block
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looking for a y-block
I'm looking to change the motor in my 57ford truck, the truck came with a inline six, but I want a V-8. Will I have to change the stock three speed tranny to make the switch to the V-8 or will a 272 or 292 bolt in. I found a guy who has a Y-block but he's not sure on the size he thinks its a 272 or 292, how can I tell what it is from looking at it and what do I need to look for when looking for a used y-block
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You will need to change the bell housing. The trans will be fine.
We need some numbers off the block to tell what size it is. The numbers are above the oil filter on the block near the deck surface.
If it has the over head oiler kit on the engine ( oil lines running to the valve cove studs) you'll be looking at a rebuild.
If it will run - run it and see how it sounds and maybe a compression check.
We need some numbers off the block to tell what size it is. The numbers are above the oil filter on the block near the deck surface.
If it has the over head oiler kit on the engine ( oil lines running to the valve cove studs) you'll be looking at a rebuild.
If it will run - run it and see how it sounds and maybe a compression check.
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The guy did a compression test on it right before he pulled it out of a 55 ford wagon and he says that they averaged 130 and it had no knocks or bangs but he did not fire it. what do you think a motor like this might be worth and are they easy to find. I just started my search and I don't want to spend to much money. He also has a motor that some one else started to rebuild but it looks like its in a lot of pieces. It has a new timing chain, bearings, rings, Isky cam, shaved ECZ-G heads "big valves" and a 4 bbl intake with holly carb. What kind of motor do you guys think this one would turn out like or are these parts pretty much the same on all rebuilds. My goal is to get a pretty good motor that will run strong and not cause me to much of a headach. I've built V-8's before but not a Y-block is there much difrence in a Y-block or is that just a name that ford came up with. And as for the pictures maybe after its painted
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I wish I could find a set up like you described for the second engine. I still need a set of ECZ-G heads.
The name y block means the block extends past the crank centerline. Like a Y not a V
I dont know where your from but around here they are getting a little harder to find especially good ones.
Kevin Bigwin
The name y block means the block extends past the crank centerline. Like a Y not a V
I dont know where your from but around here they are getting a little harder to find especially good ones.
Kevin Bigwin
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I would be careful about buying a engine that has been dissambled. When it was taken apart everything should have been marked. As you know things like main bearings caps must go back on in the same spot and in the same direction. But if all of that is strait it might be a good deal. I think I would get it just for the heads and the intake even if the rest of it was screwed up.
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Thanks for the advise I'm still trying to get the price worked out maybe I'll get both. What parts are innerchangable between a 292 and a 272 if one turns out to be diffrent, some where I read that the cranks are but can the block be worked to match the rest of the parts,and do these blocks crank often
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The 272 and the 292 are virtually the same. You can bore the 272 out to 292 piston sizes. The cranks are the same. Before long, Carl will chime in and give you some very good advice, but you can use either engine.
The ECZ-G heads are one of two or three types of heads that are preferred by people who are tuning their y-blocks for power. They have 1.9" intake valves. All y-blocks have 1.56 exhaust valves.
If you had to choose one of those two engines, I'd choose the one that's being rebuilt. The heads are pretty good parts. The intake is a good one, too, if it's the -B casting. 55 272 heads are not that great.
There's a web site that lists casting numbers and various information for y-blocks. The owner of the web site is John Mummert and he sells custom cams. You'll probably want his 256 cam.
I've got a spare bellhousing that will fit that truck. Email me.
The ECZ-G heads are one of two or three types of heads that are preferred by people who are tuning their y-blocks for power. They have 1.9" intake valves. All y-blocks have 1.56 exhaust valves.
If you had to choose one of those two engines, I'd choose the one that's being rebuilt. The heads are pretty good parts. The intake is a good one, too, if it's the -B casting. 55 272 heads are not that great.
There's a web site that lists casting numbers and various information for y-blocks. The owner of the web site is John Mummert and he sells custom cams. You'll probably want his 256 cam.
I've got a spare bellhousing that will fit that truck. Email me.
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I have three 292's for sale and two warner t98's both with bellhousings i'd like to get rid of E-mail me at dknop@bresnan.net
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Bigwin56f100 - when you say the 292 with the oil lines going up to the valve cover studs "you'll be looking at a rebuild" - does that mean the engine was rebuilt, or needs one? My 292 has that action happening. I think it needs rebuilding anyway and am considering a 302 AOD swap. But the PO had made several engine mods, and I haven't totally written off rebuilding the 292 anyway. ECZ-G heads may or may not be among the mods. Where would I look for the head numbers? Just curious - Thanks
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Daddy,
The "Overhead Oilers" that I refered to are usually installed due to a lack of oil to the heads. The lack of oil can be caused by many reasons but it seems the most common cause is the build up of debris in the oil gallerys. The oil passages clogged up and then there was no oil to the top end, and the rocker shafts supply the oil to the rocker arms, so the EASY fix was to install the overhead oilers without disassembling the engine. A top end job would probably cure an oiling problem. I have heard many people say that the cam bearings spin blocking the oil but I have never found that to be true in any of my oiling problems. Once the top end is done the newer type oils used today this oiling problem shouldnt happen again.
The head casting numbers are a little hard to see but if they are the ecz-g heads the drivers side front just under the intake mounting or the passenger side rear under the intake mounting surface.
Kevin Bigwin
The "Overhead Oilers" that I refered to are usually installed due to a lack of oil to the heads. The lack of oil can be caused by many reasons but it seems the most common cause is the build up of debris in the oil gallerys. The oil passages clogged up and then there was no oil to the top end, and the rocker shafts supply the oil to the rocker arms, so the EASY fix was to install the overhead oilers without disassembling the engine. A top end job would probably cure an oiling problem. I have heard many people say that the cam bearings spin blocking the oil but I have never found that to be true in any of my oiling problems. Once the top end is done the newer type oils used today this oiling problem shouldnt happen again.
The head casting numbers are a little hard to see but if they are the ecz-g heads the drivers side front just under the intake mounting or the passenger side rear under the intake mounting surface.
Kevin Bigwin
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I have a 292 CID engine that runs well, does not burn any oil and does not smoke. The engine is currently in my ’56 T-Bird but the casting number is B9AE 6015-F, which maps to ‘59 & ‘60 Ford cars and trucks. I believe this engine was rebuild in 1990 when the car was frame off restored. Since February 1992 the car (and engine) have been driven 2,748 miles. I have built a 312 with the correct casting number for the car to make it “numbers right”. I will be doing the engine swap in the next month or so depending on time available. If you would like to run the engine before it is removed, that could be arranged at my location in Phoenix, AZ.
Chris
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