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Old Mar 31, 2019 | 06:46 PM
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Chandelier

HI,
So now I'm here - hat in hand looking for help. Sorry if my last post stirred up some strong feelings.

This is a simple question (with perhaps no answer) -- I broke part of a chandelier and I'm trying to somehow replace the glass piece. It was somewhat a bowl on the bottom about 10-1/2" in diameter and maybe 3-1/2" deep -- although the sides were a little steep because the bottom had a flat spot in the center. The glass was a milk color and maybe 1/4" thick.

I've emailed a couple of places that I found on the web, but nothing has come back yet.

Thanks,

hj
 
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Old Mar 31, 2019 | 06:56 PM
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Try some websites that handle antique stuff...or some places that make repops.
 
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Old Apr 1, 2019 | 04:52 AM
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I'm sure you've already checked but is there a brand name on it anywhere? With that info BigKen's idea might work locating the exact part or something close enough to look original.

Not sure how important this lamp is to you but could be a local glass blowing co-operative nearby would be a good source of ideas?
 
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Old Apr 2, 2019 | 05:48 PM
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Is it the same as the globes?
If so, how about a picture of one?

Also hold a measuring tape near the 2 ends where it sits

I am a flea market vendor, and see a lot of old stuff, usually gets thrown away after a time.
Might get lucky,
 
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Old Apr 2, 2019 | 06:09 PM
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A plain ceiling light might have a glass bowl that fits. If the depth is off the threaded pipe that holds the bowl in place comes in different lengths and you can join two together to get the length you need.





 
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Old Apr 8, 2019 | 06:34 PM
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Saw some milk glass globes over the weekend, but didn't buy, not sure what measurements you need.
 
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Old Apr 9, 2019 | 02:44 PM
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Originally Posted by ford2go
HI,
So now I'm here - hat in hand looking for help. Sorry if my last post stirred up some strong feelings.

This is a simple question (with perhaps no answer) -- I broke part of a chandelier and I'm trying to somehow replace the glass piece. It was somewhat a bowl on the bottom about 10-1/2" in diameter and maybe 3-1/2" deep -- although the sides were a little steep because the bottom had a flat spot in the center. The glass was a milk color and maybe 1/4" thick.

I've emailed a couple of places that I found on the web, but nothing has come back yet.

Thanks,

hj
Most light fixtures have the OEM branded onto it somewhere, especially if it can be hidden. On a chandelier, I'd check the back side of the cap that covers the junction box in the ceiling. It's often held in place by a ring/nut that's only finger tight. If you can drop that cap an look in the back you might be able to find a brand name that you can work with.
 
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Old Apr 9, 2019 | 10:22 PM
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Thanks for all of the thoughts. Just so you know I've read through them
- Brand -- it's probably 30 years old and in all of my searches I haven't seen another one with a bottom dome. Probably won't check the brand unless I get brave-- damneds thing is heavy, I'm old, and it hangs in the middle of a slanted ceiling.
- Regular bowl. I've been looking,, but they're not much for sharing sizes -- because they're selling a complete product I guess. I need about a 10-1/2" diameter. The original was about 3-1/2 " deep and I don't want to go a lot more than that.
Glass blowers -- actually found a couple and I have to see what they might offer. They seem to mainly offer classes and some products. Maybe somebody there will consider a one off. At some price point, I'd just buy another chandelier -- although that is a nice one and it's real brass,.

Thanks again,

hj
 
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Old Apr 10, 2019 | 06:37 AM
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So, it looks like a regular lamp globe similar to what Old farm truck posted?

Does it have bumps on it, or is it smooth?
Can you get a close up picture of one of the globes?

Hold the tape where it sits, and the brass piece that holds it in

I'd hate to find one too big or small

Like I say, there is a lot of stuff at the flea market I go too, you could get lucky
 
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Old Apr 10, 2019 | 07:42 AM
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Hi hj, (My grandfather always went by those initials, too.)

The "globe" on the bottom of the chandelier is also called a bobesche. (Give anything a French name and it suddenly becomes more expensive.)

A google search for "bobesche" shows some options for you. Here's one of the sites with a variety of them: https://www.grandbrass.com/category/...hes/bobesches/


Good Luck!
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Old Apr 10, 2019 | 02:12 PM
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Originally Posted by ford2go
Thanks for all of the thoughts. Just so you know I've read through them
- Brand -- it's probably 30 years old and in all of my searches I haven't seen another one with a bottom dome. Probably won't check the brand unless I get brave-- damneds thing is heavy, I'm old, and it hangs in the middle of a slanted ceiling.
- Regular bowl. I've been looking,, but they're not much for sharing sizes -- because they're selling a complete product I guess. I need about a 10-1/2" diameter. The original was about 3-1/2 " deep and I don't want to go a lot more than that.
Glass blowers -- actually found a couple and I have to see what they might offer. They seem to mainly offer classes and some products. Maybe somebody there will consider a one off. At some price point, I'd just buy another chandelier -- although that is a nice one and it's real brass,.

Thanks again,

hj

There should be a metal dish covering the junction box. This is called the canopy. Loosen the collar holding the canopy in place and both parts should slide down the chain. You can look inside like Bass said and see if there's any build info. You don't need to remove the fixture to do this part.

Taking down the chandelier isn't hard to do. After you've lowered the canopy pull the wires out of the junction box and disconnect them. Put the marettes back on the house wiring and move the wires out of the way.

The top link in the chain connects to the canopy loop. The lamp wire travels through the canopy loop into the junction box. Pull the lamp wire out of the canopy loop. It can be hard to pull. I wrap a little electrical tape around the tip of my needle nose pliers so they don't tear the insulation off the wire. If you have a hard time pulling the wire out it's usually because the top of the mounting hardware nipple is going too far into the junction box. Forcing the the wire to travel around a tight corner as you're pulling on it. It could also be that there's a lot of extra wire inside the junction that's getting twisted making it hard to pull.

Once the wire is out you release the chandelier by opening the chain connector or bending open the top link in the chain. I'm always worried that a chain link might break as I'm bending it so I put a zip tie around the second link in the chain and the canopy loop to secure it. When I have the chain undone and the movers are ready to pack the chandelier in the crate I cut the zip tie with my side snips.





 
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