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Difference between 17' 5.0 & 18' 5.0

What are the Differences between the 17' & 18' 5.0's ..?
 
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2 completely different engines and transmissions.

The ‘17 has the 5.0 with the cast iron cylinder liners and a 6 speed transmission.

The ‘18 has an all new 5.0 with a solid aluminum block and plasa coated cylinders. It has a 10 speed transmission.
 
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+1 to JKBrad. A high-level comparison of the "5 liter V8" over the last few years is below. The important point is that even though they are all "5 liter", there are significant differences.


To add more detail, you may want to look here.
 
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Damn they really moved the peak torque up the powerband in 2018.

As if the 5.0 needed it moved any higher.

I'll stick with my 15-17.
 
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Yah. I would argue that the 2018+ is less of a truck engine, and more of a Mustang engine. Given a choice, I would prefer the one with the sleeves and better low-end torque.
 
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Originally Posted by stufarmer
What are the Differences between the 17' & 18' 5.0's ..?
Five cubic inches.

. . . and the other stuff the others said above.
 
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What are the Differences between the 17' & 18' 5.0's ..?
100 percent different engines. Not even fair to compare. The 5.0 Coyote died in 2017.
 
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Thanks for the info GlueGuy .. I knew something had changed, I didn't realize it was everything. And to CathedralClub .. I'd swear we've know each other all our lives ..
 
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And to CathedralClub .. I'd swear we've know each other all our lives ..
LOL I don't know many folks from Tampa. I guess I know one more now.
 
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100 percent different engines. Not even fair to compare. The 5.0 Coyote died in 2017.
Well, some women may be hot, some not. They are still women. While the 2018 may not be the old Coyote, it still is a Coyote.
 
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Well, some women may be hot, some not. They are still women. While the 2018 may not be the old Coyote, it still is a Coyote.
But is it a Hot Coyote .. that is the question ..
 
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Also the 18’s have auto start/stop and 17’s don’t. All new coyote for what 3% gains and 650 rpm higher toque peak. Happy with mine and love to hear her howl!
 
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Originally Posted by 92F350CC
Damn they really moved the peak torque up the powerband in 2018.

As if the 5.0 needed it moved any higher.

I'll stick with my 15-17.
But just focusing on peaks can be extremely misleading, as we have no idea what the rest of the curve looks like. We don't know that it doesn't make 387 lb-ft at 3850. Just that it makes more at 4500.

I would love to see a good dyno comparison, which is tough to do without a deliberate comparison on the same dyno. Or access to proprietary Ford information, which is a little hard to come by.
 
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But just focusing on peaks can be extremely misleading, as we have no idea what the rest of the curve looks like. We don't know that it doesn't make 387 lb-ft at 3850. Just that it makes more at 4500.

I would love to see a good dyno comparison, which is tough to do without a deliberate comparison on the same dyno. Or access to proprietary Ford information, which is a little hard to come by.
Agree, and well said.
 
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Yes. Torque "values" can be very misleading, whereas torque curves give you a much better picture (no pun intended) of what to expect.

I am reminded of the torque curve below published maybe about 3 or 4 years ago. You get a far better idea what an engine is capable of from this. One immediate thing that pops out is that the 6.2L V8 had higher torque than the 3.5L EB (438 vs 420), but that the 3.5L EB was ahead in the curve all the way until about 4300 RPM.
 


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