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Old Mar 4, 2019 | 09:44 PM
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Cold Air Intake?

I just added 35" tires to my truck and I'm looking to make up the 1-1.5 mpg I lost with the tire upsize. Apparently, adding a cold air intake can add 1-2 mpg pretty reliably. Looking through some threads, I've seen mention that adding them to these new diesels, it throws a code and causes the check engine light to come on. Anyone have experience with this, and whether that's true or not? If so, is there a fix, and does the cold air intake definitely add mpg's?
 
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Old Mar 4, 2019 | 09:57 PM
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No way. If there was a way to get an additional 2mpg, the OEM would do it, not purposely restrict the airflow. Unless you have significantly more need for air than stock (exhaust and hot tuning, bigger turbo and injectors), the engine can get all the air it needs through the stock filter. The only thing you really get (from stock) is more intake noise.
That said, lots of guys run a CAI and do not have a CEL.
 
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Old Mar 4, 2019 | 09:59 PM
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So, all in all, you're saying the cold air intake is useless, except for sound, unless I have performance upgrades to my engine? If that's true, I don't want to waste the money, as my engine is stock, with no added turbos, tuners, etc.
 
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Old Mar 4, 2019 | 10:09 PM
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Agree. Cold air intake won’t do anything but make you hear the turbo spool a little more. Cold air intake with an emissions delete might be worth it. Factory air intakes do a pretty good job these days. I drop a K&N reusable air filter in for fall to spring but put the OEM filter in for the dusty summers we have.
 
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Old Mar 4, 2019 | 10:14 PM
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There is a recent thread on CAI. Search and read through it. Good info. The short of it, save your money.
 
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Old Mar 5, 2019 | 06:00 AM
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Old Mar 5, 2019 | 06:04 AM
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Originally Posted by mayberry32
does the cold air intake definitely add mpg's?
Only in the seller's advertisements.
 
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Old Mar 5, 2019 | 06:15 AM
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I wouldn’t run a K&N in my lawnmower. The only time they offer a semblance of filtration is when they are totally full of dirt.
Diesel engines rely on ultra clean air to keep their tight tolerances intact. Point a K&N towards the sun and look through it. The amount of sunshine pouring through will show why they are dangerous for the engine and highlights the direct path for raw dirt.
Todays OEM filters flow more air that what the engine needs, and zero MPG gains are made.
 
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Old Mar 5, 2019 | 08:35 AM
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CAI's work. I got 5mpg increase and 2 inches taller after installing one. I also got a big promotion at work and my wife looks like a 25 year old gymnast after I installed one. Not to mention the lottery winnings. You really can't go wrong with a CAI.
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Old Mar 5, 2019 | 08:50 AM
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Originally Posted by nuctrooper
No way. If there was a way to get an additional 2mpg, the OEM would do it, not purposely restrict the airflow. Unless you have significantly more need for air than stock (exhaust and hot tuning, bigger turbo and injectors), the engine can get all the air it needs through the stock filter. The only thing you really get (from stock) is more intake noise.
That said, lots of guys run a CAI and do not have a CEL.
Im not sure the OEM always does what’s best for the truck or the consumer. If that were the case, the performance aftermarket wouldn’t exist. We all know how restrictive the general OEM can be (breathing in or exhaling) so, I think it’s worth a shot. I’d talk to the manufacturer and try to hold them accountable. S&B makes some decent claims and I see nothing wrong with trying to gain alittle back after installing a heavier tire. Just my opinion.
 
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Old Mar 5, 2019 | 09:00 AM
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I've found it very surprising that there is no increase with the newer engines. I can't speak for the diesel but I put.one on my old 5.4 F150 and gained 10% immediately on my fuel mileage. I did a bunch of mods on that truck to increase the mileage. I did them all one at a time so I could measure if there was a fuel mileage increase with each one. Some did nothing or were too small to measure and others had a big impact. The biggest was the CAI. That being said I have no plans to do it to my 6.2 as it basically has a CAI stock. Just has a silencer instead of a straight pipe. The intake air is drawn into the airbox from just behind the front of the hood where there is no heat, fresh air and high pressure. Don't know about the diesel but the gas has a pretty awesome intake design already. Unless I was running at WOT regularly I don't see a benefit.
 
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Old Mar 5, 2019 | 10:06 AM
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They have made huge strides in motor efficiency. CAIs just don't do what they used to. I remember putting one on my 96 5.7L Tahoe and it was amazing the difference....you get nothing now but some more turbo whine. Which is awesome if that's what you're after, but there's zero ROI in it.
 
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Old Mar 5, 2019 | 10:19 AM
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Originally Posted by CBEllis


Im not sure the OEM always does what’s best for the truck or the consumer. If that were the case, the performance aftermarket wouldn’t exist. We all know how restrictive the general OEM can be (breathing in or exhaling) so, I think it’s worth a shot.


You are assuming here.
Modern OEM intakes are supporting an engine making tremendous power. They are not compromising on flow, otherwise those numbers along with maintaining good EGT would not be possible for John Q Public.
Aftermarket products are accessories, nothing more. A CAI is a perfect example of an accessory, and not a performance breakthrough..
Half of an accessory companies job is to make you think you need them, supported by fear of losing out on power. It’s marketing BS.



 
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Old Mar 5, 2019 | 10:47 AM
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Im not sure the OEM always does what’s best for the truck or the consumer. If that were the case, the performance aftermarket wouldn’t exist.
OEMs also need to meet standards for cost, reliability, emissions, regulations, etc. that no aftermarket company does. Their definition of what is "best" for the truck can be very different from yours or mine.
 
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Old Mar 5, 2019 | 10:57 AM
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Originally Posted by 1987mustang5o
I can't speak for the diesel but I put.one on my old 5.4 F150 and gained 10% immediately on my fuel mileage. I did a bunch of mods on that truck to increase the mileage. I did them all one at a time so I could measure if there was a fuel mileage increase with each one. Some did nothing or were too small to measure and others had a big impact. The biggest was the CAI.
I tried a K&N kit on an early 2000's F150 with 5.4 No other mods than the CAI. My mileage acutally dropped 1-2 and the motor sounded a little louder. I bought it used but in like new condition from a friend. I put it on Craigslist and sold it for what I paid and wrote it off as a failed experiment.
 
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