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Old Feb 23, 2019 | 08:24 PM
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E4OD Intermittent shifting issue

Hey guys. I've got a 1997 F250 HD 4x4 with a 351W and E4OD transmission. I had a Jasper remanufactured transmission installed about 5 years ago. I've only put about 40,000 miles on the transmission. It has been great until the last few months. There are times when I take off down the road and the transmission will constantly shift up and down until the truck reaches about 35 mph. It doesn't do this consistently. Temperature doesn't seem to make a difference either, as it has done this cold and after the truck has reached operating temperature. I had replaced the PCM about a year ago, and just recently replaced the Throttle Position Sensor. The issue is still there, but it only does it every now and then. Any advice is greatly appreciated. Thank you!
 
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Old Feb 23, 2019 | 09:36 PM
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Does the OD OFF light work? Has it been flashing? You may have codes stored.

Is the speedo steady, or does it bounce?
 
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Old Feb 23, 2019 | 09:41 PM
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Hello Mark. The OD Off light does work, but I've never seen it flashing. The speedometer needle might bounce slightly, now that you mention it.
 
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If the speedo is bouncing the speed signal to the PCM is probably bouncing, too. That signal is used to determine when to shift. If it gets bad data it's not going to work as expected.

Sometimes it's debris on the vehicle speed sensor, or a bad sensor, or a damaged wire, or a bad PSOM on the back of the speedometer.
 
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Old Feb 23, 2019 | 09:52 PM
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Ok. I will replace the speed sensor. I'm sure it's the original one, so it's 20 + years old. Is there anything else I should look into?
 
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Old Feb 23, 2019 | 10:13 PM
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Is there anything else I should look into?
Here are a few other things you could look into.
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Sometimes it's debris on the vehicle speed sensor, or a bad sensor, or a damaged wire, or a bad PSOM on the back of the speedometer.
 
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Old Feb 24, 2019 | 01:14 AM
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"Remanufactured"...that is the cause of the problem right there. I have learned from experience that rebuilt is a better choice than remanufactured.
 
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Old Nov 30, 2019 | 09:17 PM
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Still having issues

Hey guys. I’m still struggling with the shifting issue with this truck. The issue is now constant, not intermittent.I have double checked wiring and found no obvious issues. I will replace the sensor on the speedometer next. If this doesn’t fix the problem, what should I try next? No OD light flashing and no codes. Many thanks guys
 
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I have learned from experience that rebuilt is a better choice than remanufactured.
I've never understood the difference between remanufactured and rebuilt. Can you explain it to me?
 
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Originally Posted by BS51993
"Remanufactured"...that is the cause of the problem right there. I have learned from experience that rebuilt is a better choice than remanufactured.
Knowing who rebuilt / remanufactured your transmission is better than something from a factory. When I worked at the Chrysler dealer, the Mopar reman units clutches were probably set up in spec but didn’t shift as good as the ones that had been rebuilt in house. We could and did set the clutch packs up at the “tighter” end of the spec to allow for wear.
 
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Hey guys. I’m still struggling with the shifting issue with this truck. The issue is now constant, not intermittent.I have double checked wiring and found no obvious issues. I will replace the sensor on the speedometer next. If this doesn’t fix the problem, what should I try next? No OD light flashing and no codes. Many thanks guys

Smacked it and it works! but why?

 
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