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Old Feb 23, 2019 | 09:02 AM
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The whole engine may be from a car..... *Christine (the Ford equivalent) geez!

the sump on the oil pan is toward the rear. So suddenly I’m worrying about oil level accuracy, starvation, etc. I wish I knew who Frankensteined this poor old truck
 
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Old Feb 23, 2019 | 09:46 AM
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Nothing wrong with a car engine, I used one in my old f150. When they converted to a rear sump pan, they should have also converted to a rear mounted dipstick. If you do not have a dipstick coming out of the side of the block or the pan, you do have a problem.
 
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Old Feb 23, 2019 | 04:58 PM
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Nothing wrong with a car engine, I used one in my old f150. When they converted to a rear sump pan, they should have also converted to a rear mounted dipstick. If you do not have a dipstick coming out of the side of the block or the pan, you do have a problem.
yeah....0f course that’s the case
 
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Old Feb 23, 2019 | 08:08 PM
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yeah....0f course that’s the case


Ok well all is not lost. The easiest solution is to use a later dual sump oil pan IIRC they will fit the F150 as the Windsors use this pan in the F150, These dual sump pans had the dipstick mounted in the pan. As your block will not have the boss for the dip-stick drilled.. The Ford Motorsports (I guess Ford Performance now) kit includes the dual sump pan dipstick and exhaust manifold mounting bolt,

https://www.summitracing.com/int/par...-a50/overview/

After a closer look this kit does not have a pan mounted dipstick. Doh

Of found a kit with the dip stick in the oil pan...
https://www.wildhorses4x4.com/produc...ronco_Oil_Pans
 
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Old Feb 24, 2019 | 11:13 AM
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If they make reproduction oil pans that fit the old Bronco's, I know for a fact they have the dipstick in the side of the pan and they are rear sump. I swapped in a 351w, and I do not know what year the engine was, but I found a oil pan for my 351w(different that a 302) with the dipstick in the pan. So keep hunting. The dual sump pan will work, but it's a pain to try and get to the front drain plug in a truck, and it makes a real mess, though I guess it's not much more mess than the oil filter makes all over the front axle.
 
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Current oil pan situation. Clears the cross member fine
 
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Old Feb 24, 2019 | 04:55 PM
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Some of the blocks have a very small freeze plug type plug in a small hole on the driver's side. If you have it, you can knock it out and install a dipstick over there. It's going to be hard to see with the exhaust manifold in place though.

Here's a chrome oil pan with the dipstick in the pan. https://www.cfrperformance.com/STEEL.../hz-8792-c.htm
 
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Old Feb 24, 2019 | 07:53 PM
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Some of the blocks have a very small freeze plug type plug in a small hole on the driver's side. You have it, you can knock it out and install a dipstick over there. It's going to be hard to see with the exhaust manifold in place though.

Here's a chrome oil pan with the dipstick in the pan. https://www.cfrperformance.com/STEEL.../hz-8792-c.htm
Check to see if you have the reccess for the block mounted dip stick. Many of the car engine blocks did not have this machined let alone drilled. Location shown in below pic. You will be able to feel from under the truck. It is inline with number 4 main cap between cylinders 3 and 4.
IIRC none of the rear sump 351W blocks had the dip stick in the block due to clearance issues with the longer stroke larger diam crank and deeper main caps.
 
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Originally Posted by matthewq4b
IIRC none of the rear sump 351W blocks had the dip stick in the block due to clearance issues with the longer stroke larger diam crank and deeper main caps.
That must be why I easily found a pan with the dipstick in it for my 351w swap.
 
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